Common ancestor between chimps and humans

Aman777

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I can hardly contain myself.

Poor Jon finds it Impossible to refute Secular History which agrees with Scripture and even names the FIRST Human cities built by Noah's great grandson and lists them in Genesis 10. It's just a Map of the Fertile Crescent which shows that the First Human Farming, city building, and EVERY other Human trait was first demonstrated on Planet Earth some 11k years ago, in the mountains of Ararat. It happened EXACTLY as God told us in Gen 7 and 8 but has been totally misunderstood for thousands of years.

http://www.fsmitha.com/h1/map00-fc.html

Since History and Scripture AGREE, then WHY doesn't the False Theory of Evolution? It's because the ToE is False. Amen?
 
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It's why I'm here. The History of the creation of the perfect 3rd Heaven is contained in it's entirety in Genesis Chapter ONE. /QUOTE]

Demonstrate this with evidence.

This History contains events which will NOT happen until AFTER Jesus returns to this Earth, which is at the end of TODAY. .

How do you know? Can you demonstrate evidence that isn't scripture...since...scripture isn't evidence, it's a claim.

ONLY Christians will be among the living Tomorrow, on the Great Sabbath, the 7th Day which is Eternity.

How do you know?

God wrote our History more than 3k years ago but ancient theologians could NOT understand.

God's history is unintelligible? Except for you....you know? How can you be certain of this? What evidence do you have?

It's proof of God which could NOT be known until the last days of this Earth. Dan 12:4

Scripture is not evidence nor is it proof of anything. You are saying that proof of God cannot be known but then you claim to know. You're contradicting yourself Are you being dishonest again Aman?

What I write of is How God hid His Truth, in front of the noses of everyone, for thousands of years, until the time just before Jesus returns. Amen?

So God intentionally hides himself? Your God is intentionally deceiving? I wouldn't want to worship any being who intentionally deceived me.

You say it is all hidden......except from you. How do you know this? Are you extra special? How can you be sure you're not delusional?
 
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Since History and Scripture AGREE, then WHY doesn't the False Theory of Evolution? It's because the ToE is False. Amen?

Actually they don't agree. Always with the claims, but never any evidence. The site you link to supports the theory of evolution. I already told you this. Yet...you continue to lie.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Exodus
http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Op-Ed-Contributors/The-Exodus-Does-archaeology-have-a-say-348464

No archaeological evidence of the Exodus ever taking place.
 
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No one. That's why I'm going to need clarification. Are you saying that your destiny is to impart this wisdom about the third heaven and whatever else?

No. All that I claim is that I am but a man who reads and studies God's Holy Word and I show others what it says to me. I'm a converted Evolutionist and when I read Genesis for what it actually says, instead of what Religion told me it said, I was flabbergasted. The Entire Creation History of the first 6 Days is written, including future events which will happen at the end of the present 6th Day, in Genesis Chapter One.

This History of the Creation could only have been written by God since some of the events shown in Genesis 1 are just now being discovered by mankind. WMAP announced in February of 2015 that it was some 550 Million years AFTER the Big Bang before the FIRST Stars lit up. Genesis 2:4 shows that the Big Bang of our Cosmos was on the 3rd Day AND the first Stars didn't light up until the 4th Day. Gen 1:16

There are many more of these scientifically correct events in Genesis Chapter 1. Since NO man of the time could have possibly known of these events, it's Testable PROOF of the Literal God. His name is Jesus Christ. God Bless you
 
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I'm a converted Evolutionist

You've demonstrated that you don't understand what evolution is. So pardon me while I dismiss this claim.

There are many more of these scientifically correct events in Genesis Chapter 1.

Name one single field of science that has demonstrated the events in Genesis to be accurate.
Cite one peer reviewed scientific paper that demonstrates that the events in Genesis are accurate.
 
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bWMAP announced in February of 2015 that it was some 550 Million years AFTER the Big Bang before the FIRST Stars lit up. Genesis 2:4 shows that the Big Bang of our Cosmos was on the 3rd Day AND the first Stars didn't light up until the 4th Day. Gen 1:16

1 day= 550 million years? Ummmm....no.
 
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:doh:Yep the picture is sourced from
http://www.worth1000.com a site that specialises in holding competitions for best photoshopped, digitally manipulated photos, such as this one.

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Prove it.

Sure. Since today is the 6th Day Gen 1:27 and the Big Bang of our Cosmos was on the 3rd Day, Gen 2:4 we get an idea of how long in man's time, is Each of God's Day's/Ages. When you divide the 3 Days since the Big Bang, it shows that Each of God's Day's is some 4.5 Billion years in length, in man's time. This AGREES with the dating of the first creatures made from the water on the 5th Day, Gen 1:21 or some 3.77 Billion years ago, in man's time. Amen?
 
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Sure. Since today is the 6th Day Gen 1:27 and the Big Bang of our Cosmos was on the 3rd Day, Gen 2:4 we get an idea of how long in man's time, is Each of God's Day's/Ages. When you divide the 3 Days since the Big Bang, it shows that Each of God's Day's is some 4.5 Billion years in length, in man's time. This AGREES with the dating of the first creatures made from the water on the 5th Day, Gen 1:21 or some 3.77 Billion years ago, in man's time. Amen?

If you can't supply supporting evidence for your claims, they are dismissed as incoherent nonsense.
Try again.
 
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That's completely made up.

False accusation since God's time is NOT man's time. He lives in the Eternal Present. Unlike the ToE, God's Truth is NOT made up. It's God's unchangeable Truth and easily understood IF you have the proper interpretation of Genesis Chapter ONE. What is indicated is that your view does NOT agree with God's Truth. Amen?
 
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If you can't supply supporting evidence for your claims, they are dismissed as incoherent nonsense.
Try again.

I'm the ONLY one in the discussion who has submitted historic evidence which the Evolutionists here have dismissed BECAUSE it destroys their silly view called the ToE. Respond to my evidence BEFORE you demand more. Amen?
 
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I'm the ONLY one in the discussion who has submitted historic evidence which the Evolutionists here have dismissed BECAUSE it destroys their silly view called the ToE. Respond to my evidence BEFORE you demand more. Amen?

You've only presented claims that you made up in your head.

Here is real evidence.
Address it if you can.

A. Comparative anatomy conclusion- "Organisms that are closely related to one another share many anatomical similarities"http://www.evolution.berkeley.edu/evosite/lines/IIBcomparative.shtml

B. Embryology conclusion- "Rathke looked at the development of frogs, salamanders, fish, birds, and mammals, and emphasized the similarities in the development of all these vertebrate groups. During his 40 years of embryological research, he described for the first time the vertebrate pharyngeal arches , which become the gill apparatus of fish but become the mammalian jaws and ears" http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK9974/

C. Evolutionary genetics- Four evolutionary forces (mutation, random genetic drift, natural selection, and gene flow) acting within and among populations cause micro-evolutionary change and these processes are sufficient to account for macro-evolutionary patterns, which arise in the longer term from the collective action of these forces. That is, given very long periods of time, the micro-evolutionary forces will eventually give rise to the macro-evolutionary patterns that characterize the higher taxonomic groups. http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/evolutionary-genetics/

D. DNA- "A mutation is a change in DNA, the hereditary material of life. An organism's DNA affects how it looks, how it behaves, and its physiology. So a change in an organism's DNA can cause changes in all aspects of its life."http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/evolutionary-genetics/
An example of the results of a genetic mutation would be the bipedal hips in Australopithecus
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We can also see evidence of similarities between chimpanzees and humans in human chromosome #2
"All great apes apart from man have 24 pairs of chromosomes. There is therefore a hypothesis that the common ancestor of all great apes had 24 pairs of chromosomes and that the fusion of two of the ancestor's chromosomes created chromosome 2 in humans. The evidence for this hypothesis is very strong."
The analogous chromosomes (2p and 2q) in the non-human great apes can be shown, when laid end to end, to create an identical banding structure to the human chromosome 2 http://www.evolutionpages.com/chromosome_2.htm

E. The fossil record. If what we know from above is true, we will see transitional fossils in the fossil record. A prediction was made for the Tiktaalik fossil. The prediction was confirmed accurate. http://tiktaalik.uchicago.edu/meetTik.html
There is also a massive transitional fossil record: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_transitional_fossils
 
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