Change in America

[ScottA]

It is a shame, but the political genius of the Democratic party, is changing America. Somewhere in their history, someone discovered that the more people their policies appealed to, the more votes they would get. Brilliant. Unfortunately, it is changing the way Americans think.

America was founded on, and has been known for, its freedom and liberty, for an individuals right to choose their own way. We were the rebels that broke free from tyranny, the brave.

But things are different now. One "special interest" group after another have been lured into giving up their individual freedom in exchange for the promotion of their "cause." Women, Jews, blacks, hispanics, the handicapped, the poor, the elderly, homosexuals, even non-citizens...have all been the pet project and selling point to generate more votes. And it has been working wonderfully!

There is just one BIG problem: It's a sell-out, a trade, a loss, of individual freedom for their cause, for each cause. Instead of the freedom to pursue their own happiness, now people are no longer individuals, but members. Instead of the opportunity to build their own future, their future is outlined and regulated. Instead of opportunities to prosper, they have the obligation to contribute. Instead of a new job, or the chance to be their own boss...they got a new boss...and it's good old Uncle Sam. Only he's making $150k while, if you buy into their next big promotion, you're making $15 an hour. Brilliant.

So, instead of making it easier for us to be our own bosses, fulfill our own dreams...all their buddies are now bosses (your boss), living large. Yep, thanks to a sucker born every minute, government is now one big, good old boys club, with all the benefits...not the same benefits you get of course.

Democrat game plan. Brilliant!

 

[Winepress777]

Yep. And what is strange, some Christians feel it is like, their "civic duty" to be a part of the machinery of that train wreck...

 

[ScottA]

Yep. And what is strange, some Christians feel it is like, their "civic duty" to be a part of the machinery of that train wreck...

Yeah, after all, who doesn't want to support a good cause? So...many do, not even realizing they are buying into a plan that takes away freedom, rights, and opportunity.

It has changed us from a nation of adventurers, and pioneers, insisting on right and wrong, and striving for greatness...to being fair, and passive, consumers, instead of producers. We're like veal calves, each happy with our own little stall, and our daily rations.

 

[Hetta]

Yes I'm sure that blacks are devastated that they "sold out" by obtaining the right to vote.

 

[ScottA]

Yes I'm sure that blacks are devastated that they "sold out" by obtaining the right to vote.

Yes, it's a good thing they have some real friends, instead of just phony ones!

http://www.nationalblackrepublicans.com/dyk-historytest

 

[tulc]

Yes, it's a good thing that Republicans fought for their right to vote!

http://www.nationalblackrepublicans.com/dyk-historytest

Oh! That was the old Republican Party. This is what today's Republican Party is about:
http://www.nationalmemo.com/6-other...ns-are-just-about-disenfranchising-democrats/
I suspect Republicans didn't realize once people got the vote they might actually vote for the other guys.
tulc(who knew?)

 

[ScottA]

Oh! That was the old Republican Party. This is what today's Republican Party is about:
http://www.nationalmemo.com/6-other...ns-are-just-about-disenfranchising-democrats/
I suspect Republicans didn't realize once people got the vote they might actually vote for the other guys.
tulc(who knew?)

If you want to put down the party that has historically done the right thing, and believe the opposing party rhetoric in spite of their actions...that is your choice. But it makes you a part of the problem. You are just one more person pulling the wool over peoples eyes. Here are the facts...you should take the test:

HistoryTest
BLACK POLITICAL HISTORY: THE UNTOLD STORY
NOTE: All answers are "b."


1. What Party was founded as the anti-slavery Party and fought to free blacks from slavery?

[ ] a. Democratic Party

[ ] b. Republican Party


2. What was the Party of Abraham Lincoln who signed the emancipation proclamation that resulted in the Juneteenth celebrations that occur in black communities today?

[ ] a. Democratic Party

[ ] b. Republican Party


3. What Party passed the Thirteenth, Fourteenth, and Fifteenth Amendments to the U. S. Constitution granting blacks freedom, citizenship, and the right to vote?

[ ] a. Democratic Party

[ ] b. Republican Party


4. What Party passed the Civil Rights Acts of 1866 and 1875 granting blacks protection from the Black Codes and prohibiting racial discrimination in public accommodations, and was the Party of most blacks prior to the 1960’s, including Frederick Douglass, Harriet Tubman, Sojourner Truth, Booker T. Washington, and Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.?

[ ] a. Democratic Party

[ ] b. Republican Party


5. What was the Party of the founding fathers of the NAACP?

[ ] a. Democratic Party

[ ] b. Republican Party


6. What was the Party of President Dwight Eisenhower who sent U.S. troops to Arkansas to desegregate schools, established the Civil Rights Commission in 1958, and appointed Chief Justice Earl Warren to the U.S. Supreme Court which resulted in the 1954 Brown v. Board of Education decision ending school segregation?

[ ] a. Democratic Party

[ ] b. Republican Party


7. What Party, by the greatest percentage, passed the Civil Rights Acts of the 1950’s and 1960’s?

[ ] a. Democratic Party

[ ] b. Republican Party


8. What was the Party of President Richard Nixon who instituted the first Affirmative Action program in 1969 with the Philadelphia Plan that established goals and timetables?

[ ] a. Democratic Party

[ ] b. Republican Party


9. What is the Party of President George W. Bush who appointed more blacks to high-level positions than any president in history and who spent record money education, job training and health care to help black Americans prosper?

[ ] a. Democratic Party

[ ] b. Republican Party


BLACK POLITICAL HISTORY: THE UNTOLD STORY

NOTE: All answers are "b."


10. What Party fought to keep blacks in slavery and was the Party of the Ku Klux Klan?

[ ] a. Republican Party

[ ] b. Democratic Party


11. What Party from 1870 to 1930 used fraud, whippings, lynching, murder, intimidation, and mutilation to get the black vote, and passed the Black Codes and Jim Crow laws which legalized racial discrimination and denied blacks their rights as citizens?

[ ] a. Republican Party

[ ] b. Democratic Party


12. What was the Party of President Franklin D. Roosevelt and President Harry Truman who rejected anti-lynching laws and efforts to establish a permanent Civil Rights Commission?

[ ] a. Republican Party

[ ] b. Democratic Party


13. What was the Party of President Lyndon Johnson, who called Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. “that [N-word] preacher” because he opposed the Viet Nam War; and President John F. Kennedy who voted against the 1957 Civil Rights law as a Senator, then as president opposed the 1963 March on Washington by Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. after becoming president and the FBI investigate Dr. King on suspicion of being a communist?

[ ] a. Republican Party

[ ] b. Democratic Party


14. What is the Party of the late Senators Robert Byrd who was a member of the Ku Klux Klan, Ernest “Fritz” Hollings who hoisted the Confederate flag over the state capitol in South Carolina while governor, and Ted Kennedy who called black judicial nominees “Neanderthals” while blocking their appointments?

[ ] a. Republican Party

[ ] b. Democratic Party


15. What was the Party of President Bill Clinton who failed to fight the terrorists after the first bombing of the World Trade Center in 1993, sent troops to war in Bosnia and Kosovo without Congressional approval, vetoed the Welfare Reform law twice before signing it, and refused to comply with a court order to have shipping companies develop an Affirmative Action Plan?

[ ] a. Republican Party

[ ] b. Democratic Party


16. What is the Party of Vice President Al Gore whose father voted against the Civil Rights Acts of the 1960’s, and who lost the 2000 election as confirmed by a second recount of Florida votes by the “Miami Herald” and a consortium of major news organizations and the ruling by the U.S. Civil Rights Commission that blacks were not denied the right to vote?

[ ] a. Republican Party

[ ] b. Democratic Party


17. What Party is against school vouchers, against school prayers, and takes the black vote for granted without ever acknowledging their racist past or apologizing for trying to expand slavery, lynching blacks and passing the Black Codes and Jim Crow laws that caused great harm to blacks?

[ ] a. Republican Party

[ ] b. Democratic Party

http://www.nationalblackrepublicans.com/dyk-historytest

 

[tulc]

If you want to put down the party that has historically done the right thing, and believe the opposing party rhetoric in spite of their actions...that is your choice. But it makes you a part of the problem. You are just one more person pulling the wool over peoples eyes. Here are the facts...you should take the test:

HistoryTest
BLACK POLITICAL HISTORY: THE UNTOLD STORY
NOTE: All answers are "b."


1. What Party was founded as the anti-slavery Party and fought to free blacks from slavery?

[ ] a. Democratic Party

[ ] b. Republican Party


2. What was the Party of Abraham Lincoln who signed the emancipation proclamation that resulted in the Juneteenth celebrations that occur in black communities today?

[ ] a. Democratic Party

[ ] b. Republican Party


3. What Party passed the Thirteenth, Fourteenth, and Fifteenth Amendments to the U. S. Constitution granting blacks freedom, citizenship, and the right to vote?

[ ] a. Democratic Party

[ ] b. Republican Party


4. What Party passed the Civil Rights Acts of 1866 and 1875 granting blacks protection from the Black Codes and prohibiting racial discrimination in public accommodations, and was the Party of most blacks prior to the 1960’s, including Frederick Douglass, Harriet Tubman, Sojourner Truth, Booker T. Washington, and Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.?

[ ] a. Democratic Party

[ ] b. Republican Party


5. What was the Party of the founding fathers of the NAACP?

[ ] a. Democratic Party

[ ] b. Republican Party


6. What was the Party of President Dwight Eisenhower who sent U.S. troops to Arkansas to desegregate schools, established the Civil Rights Commission in 1958, and appointed Chief Justice Earl Warren to the U.S. Supreme Court which resulted in the 1954 Brown v. Board of Education decision ending school segregation?

[ ] a. Democratic Party

[ ] b. Republican Party


7. What Party, by the greatest percentage, passed the Civil Rights Acts of the 1950’s and 1960’s?

[ ] a. Democratic Party

[ ] b. Republican Party


8. What was the Party of President Richard Nixon who instituted the first Affirmative Action program in 1969 with the Philadelphia Plan that established goals and timetables?

[ ] a. Democratic Party

[ ] b. Republican Party


9. What is the Party of President George W. Bush who appointed more blacks to high-level positions than any president in history and who spent record money education, job training and health care to help black Americans prosper?

[ ] a. Democratic Party

[ ] b. Republican Party


BLACK POLITICAL HISTORY: THE UNTOLD STORY

NOTE: All answers are "b."


10. What Party fought to keep blacks in slavery and was the Party of the Ku Klux Klan?

[ ] a. Republican Party

[ ] b. Democratic Party


11. What Party from 1870 to 1930 used fraud, whippings, lynching, murder, intimidation, and mutilation to get the black vote, and passed the Black Codes and Jim Crow laws which legalized racial discrimination and denied blacks their rights as citizens?

[ ] a. Republican Party

[ ] b. Democratic Party


12. What was the Party of President Franklin D. Roosevelt and President Harry Truman who rejected anti-lynching laws and efforts to establish a permanent Civil Rights Commission?

[ ] a. Republican Party

[ ] b. Democratic Party


13. What was the Party of President Lyndon Johnson, who called Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. “that [N-word] preacher” because he opposed the Viet Nam War; and President John F. Kennedy who voted against the 1957 Civil Rights law as a Senator, then as president opposed the 1963 March on Washington by Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. after becoming president and the FBI investigate Dr. King on suspicion of being a communist?

[ ] a. Republican Party

[ ] b. Democratic Party


14. What is the Party of the late Senators Robert Byrd who was a member of the Ku Klux Klan, Ernest “Fritz” Hollings who hoisted the Confederate flag over the state capitol in South Carolina while governor, and Ted Kennedy who called black judicial nominees “Neanderthals” while blocking their appointments?

[ ] a. Republican Party

[ ] b. Democratic Party


15. What was the Party of President Bill Clinton who failed to fight the terrorists after the first bombing of the World Trade Center in 1993, sent troops to war in Bosnia and Kosovo without Congressional approval, vetoed the Welfare Reform law twice before signing it, and refused to comply with a court order to have shipping companies develop an Affirmative Action Plan?

[ ] a. Republican Party

[ ] b. Democratic Party


16. What is the Party of Vice President Al Gore whose father voted against the Civil Rights Acts of the 1960’s, and who lost the 2000 election as confirmed by a second recount of Florida votes by the “Miami Herald” and a consortium of major news organizations and the ruling by the U.S. Civil Rights Commission that blacks were not denied the right to vote?

[ ] a. Republican Party

[ ] b. Democratic Party


17. What Party is against school vouchers, against school prayers, and takes the black vote for granted without ever acknowledging their racist past or apologizing for trying to expand slavery, lynching blacks and passing the Black Codes and Jim Crow laws that caused great harm to blacks?

[ ] a. Republican Party

[ ] b. Democratic Party

http://www.nationalblackrepublicans.com/dyk-historytest

It's cute that you think things like this haven't been posted a few hundred times here on CF. You know what's really more interesting? Any idea of the percentage of African-Americans who identify as Republican as opposed to identify as Democrat? Go ahead look it up, I'll wait here.
tulc(is going to his 4th of July cookout!)

 

[ScottA]

It's cute that you think things like this haven't been posted a few hundred times here on CF. You know what's really more interesting? Any idea of the percentage of African-Americans who identify as Republican as opposed to identify as Democrat? Go ahead look it up, I'll wait here.
tulc(is going to his 4th of July cookout!)

What is NOT cute...is that the truth is not respected, and that a people continues to be duped by those whose actions are not for, but against them.

You may have won the votes, you may have fooled the masses, but you have not come away with your integrity.

The truth > http://www.nationalblackrepublicans.com/dyk-historytest

 

[Vylo]

What is NOT cute...is that the truth is not respected, and that a people continues to be duped by those whose actions are not for, but against them.

You may have won the votes, you may have fooled the masses, but you have not come away with your integrity.

The truth > http://www.nationalblackrepublicans.com/dyk-historytest

The truth is that the parties switched sides after republican politicians settle on the southern strategy. The outright went after racist votes to break up the "solid south". This pushed all the blacks into the democratic party and many former republicans as well.

 

[ScottA]

The truth is that the parties switched sides after republican politicians settle on the southern strategy. The outright went after racist votes to break up the "solid south". This pushed all the blacks into the democratic party and many former republicans as well.

Not following you here.

Switched sides? The history of policies shows a consistent track record with both parties.

"Solid south?"

 

[Maren]

We need an opposite test. Things like:

Which President illegally suspended Habeas Corpus, including trying civilians in military courts?
Which party was founded to limit the Freedom of Religion -- basically to declare war on a Religion?
Which party has worked to kill/limit affirmative action, basically since they first passed it?
Which party has had a President resign in disgrace, rather than impeached and removed from office?
Which party has traditionally been for expanding federal power but in the last couple of decades started arguing "states rights"?

There are plenty of other questions a clever person could come up with that would make Republicans look pretty bad. Don't get me wrong, I have no particular love for the Democratic party, but it is funny how all those questions deal with events from at least 50 years ago. Both parties have plenty of skeletons in the closet.

 

[Hetta]

Yes, it's a good thing they have some real friends, instead of just phony ones!

http://www.nationalblackrepublicans.com/dyk-historytest

So the only good blacks are Republican blacks. Sure. I'll go tell my husband he's been voting the wrong party his whole life. SMH.

 

[Vylo]

Not following you here.

Switched sides? The history of policies shows a consistent track record with both parties.

"Solid south?"

No, their track records are far from consistent. Democrats used to be the party of small government. Republicans started the environmental movement. Lots of things changed. Woodrow Wilson started the "big government" democrats, with FDR obviously putting the final nail in that coffin. Later on the Republicans wanted to gain votes and started what would be known as the Southern Strategy, which culminated with Johnson signing the Civil rights Act, moving the blacks into the democratic party, and pushing southern democrats into the republican party. This broke up the "solid south", which used to be for the democrats by virtue of a large swath of white voters who, to put it mildly, didn't take kindly to those of color.

This is how the parties essentially swapped positions on the matter of race.

 

[ScottA]

We need an opposite test. Things like:

Which President illegally suspended Habeas Corpus, including trying civilians in military courts?
Which party was founded to limit the Freedom of Religion -- basically to declare war on a Religion?
Which party has worked to kill/limit affirmative action, basically since they first passed it?
Which party has had a President resign in disgrace, rather than impeached and removed from office?
Which party has traditionally been for expanding federal power but in the last couple of decades started arguing "states rights"?

There are plenty of other questions a clever person could come up with that would make Republicans look pretty bad. Don't get me wrong, I have no particular love for the Democratic party, but it is funny how all those questions deal with events from at least 50 years ago. Both parties have plenty of skeletons in the closet.

No question that both parties have acted shamefully (although you missed the stuff from the past fifty years).

But the point is, Democrats have made it their policy, their strategy, to USE special interest groups and their causes to gain votes, while NOT acting in their (the special interest group's) best interest. Black voters are just one example.

 

[Vylo]

No question that both parties have acted shamefully (although you missed the stuff from the past fifty years).

But the point is, Democrats have made it their policy, their strategy, to USE special interest groups and their causes to gain votes, while NOT acting in their (the special interest group's) best interest. Black voters are just one example.

Uh, they have acted in their best interest. For example, you may have noticed one large swath of their constituency just gained the right to marry.

 

[lupusFati]

And this is why I don't believe political parties should be a thing.

 

[ScottA]

So the only good blacks are Republican blacks. Sure. I'll go tell my husband he's been voting the wrong party his whole life. SMH.

You might want to tell him there is another side to it...and the facts of the history of each party are not what most think. If he doesn't know, he should.

But, I never said that (at all). I just gave the other side as presented by black Republicans, of the facts of each parties history.

You don't have to like it, it's just the truth after all.

 

[ScottA]

No, their track records are far from consistent. Democrats used to be the party of small government. Republicans started the environmental movement. Lots of things changed. Woodrow Wilson started the "big government" democrats, with FDR obviously putting the final nail in that coffin. Later on the Republicans wanted to gain votes and started what would be known as the Southern Strategy, which culminated with Johnson signing the Civil rights Act, moving the blacks into the democratic party, and pushing southern democrats into the republican party. This broke up the "solid south", which used to be for the democrats by virtue of a large swath of white voters who, to put it mildly, didn't take kindly to those of color.

This is how the parties essentially swapped positions on the matter of race.

I was not just referring to race in my original post, but rather that the Democrats have developed a pattern of USING special interest groups and their causes to gain votes. I then sited the one example as stated by the National Black Republicans group. Are you saying that they are wrong?

 

[Vylo]

I was not just referring to race in my original post, but rather that the Democrats have developed a pattern of USING special interest groups and their causes to gain votes. I then sited the one example as stated by the National Black Republicans group. Are you saying that they are wrong?

More like irrelevant. Democrats have been on their side for the past 50ish years.