Boy Who Killed Girl Over Puppies Used Gun in Closet

[Nithavela]

I guess it all comes down to the individual. Plenty of parents have taught their children how to use a firearm (properly), and the child doesn't start messing with the gun as soon as the parent is not around. There have even been cases where a teenager was home and used the firearm to successfully defend the home against home invaders who had broken in. But like I said, it's still an "individual basis" thing.

Would you mind watching this documentary and telling us your thoughts about it?

 

[Aldebaran]

Would you mind watching this documentary and telling us your thoughts about it?

I recognized it when I first started it. I saw it when it was first aired. My thoughts about it are the same as when I first saw it, which is the idea that it is stupid to put a real gun in with toys that children are allowed to play with and then expect that the child (these kids here weren't even close to being teenagers) isn't going to play with it. ABC has made other such pieces like this that can easily be discredited. They made one about the futility of defending yourself against an active shooter too. Totally without credibility.

 

[Bible Page]

You all don't realize this news report is already posted in this forum here:http://www.christianforums.com/thre...-by-father-now-in-trouble-father-not.7911556/

Maybe a moderator can join the two.

 

[Nithavela]

No I have already realised it and apologised for it.

It's okay to speak about individuality, but I don't think the survival of children should be down to individuality.

 

[Aldebaran]

No I have already realised it and apologised for it.

It's okay to speak about individuality, but I don't think the survival of children should be down to individuality.

No, the individuality I was speaking of was in the decision of the parents as to whether or not their child has reached a level of maturity to be taught about proper gun handling, and whether or not they've earned the level of trust needed in order to have one available to them in the home.

 

[Nithavela]

As could be seen in the video I posted, the parents of these children seemed to have misjudged the maturity. I would say that this could happen to many parents.

 

[Aldebaran]

As could be seen in the video I posted, the parents of these children seemed to have misjudged the maturity. I would say that this could happen to many parents.

That's true, but like I was saying before, these kids are obviously too young to be exposed to something like this (maybe only 5 or 6 years old at most), and especially in a situation where firearms are mixed in with toys. But if these parents think these very young kids have reached a maturity level sufficient to have guns mixed in with their toys--well, that's why parents need to be held ultimately responsible for what their kids are exposed to. But in the case specifically played out in the video (pretending it was a real life scenario), it would be ABC or the school that placed real guns in with toys that would be responsible. The kids didn't even do anything wrong, unlike the case at the beginning of this thread.

 

[Crowns&Laurels]

I wasn't aware that the actions of a 12 year old define what is right or wrong about a country.

It's funny how a person with an agenda can magically make any single thing support that agenda. That's what we have here among these threads- anti gun advocates. Even feminism has breached on this particular event, all because the victim was a girl.

They point to a much deeper problem.

Correlation does not imply causation.

Its fine to teach them safety, but children should not have access to guns at such an early age. It often ends quite badly.

No it doesn't.
A handful of cases does not stack up to being something that happens 'often' among a population of well over 300 million people.

 

[ChristsSoldier115]

If you own guns do not not teach your child anything about them, as the least "don't touch my guns", then their accidental discharge of your firearms is on your head. Parents are always responsible for their children. This "it is the kids fault not the parents" is a stupid response.

 

[Nithavela]

No it doesn't.
A handful of cases does not stack up to being something that happens 'often' among a population of well over 300 million people.

https://www.rt.com/usa/usa-children-gunshot-incidents-279/

 

[Crowns&Laurels]

https://www.rt.com/usa/usa-children-gunshot-incidents-279/

That's not even hardly exclusive to events such as what this thread is about.

 

[Nithavela]

Of course not, but the neccessary information can be gleaned from it.

400 Hospitilisations for children under 10. 75% shot by accident.

Also, 270 suicides by gun.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Well, if someone (either you or the OP) would tell us what that deeper problem is, then we can discuss it.

I'm sure the "deeper problem" will be put on trial along with the kid and his father, and we can finally get the whole thing resolved.

 

[nightflight]

Also, 270 suicides by gun.

"If we had more people like that, we'd have less people like that." - Hawkeye Pierce

 

[JGG]

Clearly the real problem is that the little girl was not armed. That would have prevented this whole thing.

 

[Armoured]

That's why they need parents to guide them at that stage in their life. Those who don't are doing a disservice to their children and everyone else, which is why they are ultimately responsible for the actions of their children.

Part of "guide(ing) them at that stage in their life", to me, includes keeping firearms locked safely away when the parent isn't around to supervise.

 

[sahjimira]

No regard for human life

 

[Dave-W]

Kids are exponentially more likely to make poor choices.

Than ...... what exactly?

Than today's adults? Than kids of 50 years ago? than adults of 50 years ago?

If you are going to make a comparison tell us what you are comparing it to.

 

[Sistrin]

boy-who-killed-over-puppy-found-gun-in-closet

Ok, so the gun is to blame.

 

[Sistrin]

They point to a much deeper problem.

Yeah, that liberalism corrupts and eventually kills.