Bill Nye the Science Guy and Creationism

[joshua 1 9]

Yes, but it's ultimately not about the age. It's about whether you think species were created separately or evolved.

I do not see any issue there. If that is the way God created then why should we have a problem with that? That is why so many Christians now are becoming Theistic Evolutionists. They do not see any conflict between religion and science. They see evolution as a theory that explains how God does what He does. IT is only the atheists that have a problem with Theism. Because by definition an atheist is anti theism. That is why they reject evolution and they reject science because science is neutral, science is agnostic. Even science recognizes the benefits of religions that have social centers where people can become a part of a community.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Is the word "nitpicking" in yours?

You must mean: "You blind guides, who strain out a gnat and swallow a camel!". "Catch us the foxes, the little foxes, that spoil the vines: for our vines have tender grapes."

 

[Murby]

Even science recognizes the benefits of religions that have social centers where people can become a part of a community.

That's a twisted statement.
Science recognizes the benefits of social centers.. Period...

Science also recognizes that people have to eat food to live.
But science doesn't say we recognize the benefits of McDonald's were people can eat food to live.

If there is one thing that religion does teach very well, its how to twist the meaning of things. Practice makes perfect and people have been twisting the meaning of biblical writings since its inception.

 

[Cearbhall]

I do not see any issue there. If that is the way God created then why should we have a problem with that? That is why so many Christians now are becoming Theistic Evolutionists.

Right. I'm just saying that most people don't mean theistic evolution when they say Creationism. They mean Genesis in a literal sense.

 

[Sistrin]

John's Gap, if you guys remember.

I follow some of these threads but I usually don't comment in them. However this reference intrigues me as I have no idea what it refers to. If you don't mind can you please explain?

 

[PsychoSarah]

WOW it is as if every single one of you atheists try to project your problems out on others. None of you seem to be able to confront yourselves. " first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye."

I can live without knowing everything, it just sounded from your big block of a paragraph that your faith amounted to "science doesn't answer literally every question I have, better seek religion". If I am wrong, correct me, don't accuse me of projecting.

 

[lasthero]

Thankfully I am not one of these people that cares about backing upclaims when I know what I seen.

You say that like expecting people to believe what you say without proof is a good thing.

 

[joshua 1 9]

I can live without knowing everything, it just sounded from your big block of a paragraph that your faith amounted to "science doesn't answer literally every question I have, better seek religion". If I am wrong, correct me, don't accuse me of projecting.

Science claims to be able to solve your problems and they can not, period end of story. They fail to deliver on what they claim they can deliver on. Science is a fraud.

 

[TLK Valentine]

I do not see any issue there. If that is the way God created then why should we have a problem with that? That is why so many Christians now are becoming Theistic Evolutionists.

They became TEs because creationists created a conflict where one wasn't necessary, then proceeded to lose that conflict.... repeatedly and spectacularly.

They do not see any conflict between religion and science. They see evolution as a theory that explains how God does what He does. IT is only the atheists that have a problem with Theism. Because by definition an atheist is anti theism. That is why they reject evolution and they reject science because science is neutral, science is agnostic.

Are you saying that Atheists are the ones who reject evolution and science in general? Seriously?

Even science recognizes the benefits of religions that have social centers where people can become a part of a community.

Depends on what that community teaches. Comforting lies are still lies... and in the long run, how happy are people who are lied to?

 

[TLK Valentine]

Science claims to be able to solve your problems and they can not, period end of story. They fail to deliver on what they claim they can deliver on. Science is a fraud.

What problems can you solve? Any?

 

[Butterfly99]

Science claims to be able to solve your problems and they can not, period end of story. They fail to deliver on what they claim they can deliver on. Science is a fraud.

Huh? Science doesn't claim to solve our problems. It solves a lot of our problems. I mean we can talk to ppl from around the world thx to science, we live past 40 thx to science. There's a ton of human problems science can't fix. Science isn't a fraud, lol.

 

[Murby]

Science claims to be able to solve your problems and they can not, period end of story. They fail to deliver on what they claim they can deliver on. Science is a fraud.

Can I use that and post it elsewhere? I don't want to plagiarize your writings so I prefer to ask for permission to use it in other places.

Your statement is a perfect example of why people should avoid all religion and stick to academic studies.

Like when they take troubled school kids to a prison and show them all the nasty inmates behind bars.. the kids get the message by example.

 

[Archaeopteryx]

Science claims to be able to solve your problems and they can not, period end of story. They fail to deliver on what they claim they can deliver on. Science is a fraud.

Lol.

 

[Archaeopteryx]

Can I use that and post it elsewhere? I don't want to plagiarize your writings so I prefer to ask for permission to use it in other places.

Your statement is a perfect example of why people should avoid all religion and stick to academic studies.

Like when they take troubled school kids to a prison and show them all the nasty inmates behind bars.. the kids get the message by example.

Leading by (bad) example.

 

[Murby]

Leading by (bad) example.

Huh?

 

[JonFromMinnesota]

Science is a fraud.

If you feel this way then turn off your computer, TV, hot water, electricity, stop taking modern medication and getting vaccinations, don't allow a doctor to take an x ray, don't use a GPS, don't fly in airplanes, don't drive a car......should I continue?

 

[Murby]

If you feel this way then turn off your computer, TV, hot water, electricity, stop taking modern medication and getting vaccinations, don't allow a doctor to take an x ray, don't use a GPS, don't fly in airplanes, don't drive a car......should I continue?

(sarcasm alert)
But science didn't make all those things.. GOD made them!

 

[PsychoSarah]

Science claims to be able to solve your problems and they can not, period end of story. They fail to deliver on what they claim they can deliver on. Science is a fraud.

Science does have limits, and they are acknowledged. For example, morality is beyond the scope of science. We wish we could solve moral debates scientifically, but alas, it is too abstract and subjective. Not being able to solve every problem doesn't make science a fraud, it just makes it limited. It is still useful within those limits.

Maybe you should stop trying to tell me what I think. Only I know what I think, and when your assumptions on that are wrong, you just end up making yourself look like a fool.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Maybe you should stop trying to tell me what I think. Only I know what I think, and when your assumptions on that are wrong, you just end up making yourself look like a fool.

I am not telling you what you think. You asked me a question and I answered your question. The Bible says we are to have the mind of Christ. We are to be transformed by the renewing of our mind. This is all a part of the born again experience we have as a Christian. That is your choice if you want to be born again and a new Creation in Christ. I can not make that decision for you, you can only make that decision for yourself.

 

[PsychoSarah]

I am not telling you what you think. You asked me a question and I answered your question. The Bible says we are to have the mind of Christ. We are to be transformed by the renewing of our mind. This is all a part of the born again experience we have as a Christian. That is your choice if you want to be born again and a new Creation in Christ. I can not make that decision for you, you can only make that decision for yourself.

I have been a seeker for more than 7 years. Belief is not a choice, seeking it out is, but attaining it is not.