Australia Enforces $15K Tax Penalty for Parents who Don’t Vaccinate

[briquest]

Nevermind a ‘conscientious’ refusal by parents who aren’t sold on the complete safety of vaccines. Now if they fail to immunize their children in Australia, they will no longer be paid either (or all of) the following:

• A $200-a-week childcare benefit

• The $7,500-a-year childcare rebate, or

• The $726 Family Tax Benefit A annual supplement

In a family with two children, this could amount to as much as $30,000.

Australia currently boasts childhood vaccination rates of over 90% for under 5’s, but the number of vaccine refusers is growing steadily.

Prime Minister Abbott defends his position by stating:

“Parents who vaccinate their children should have confidence that they can take their children to child care without the fear that their children will be at risk of contracting a serious or potentially life-threatening illness because of the conscientious objections of others.”



Read more: http://naturalsociety.com/australia...for-parents-who-dont-vaccinate/#ixzz3etkerFKp

 

[LionL]

This should help to protect children and so is a good thing. There is no reason to refuse a vaccination, unless of course you want your child to become ill, but I don't think anyone really wants that.

 

[NightHawkeye]

That's a pretty steep price to pay.

 

[loveofourlord]

That's a pretty steep price to pay.

less then the cost in lives and medical bills and work lost among other things due to treatable diseases returning.

 

[NightHawkeye]

less then the cost in lives and medical bills and work lost among other things due to treatable diseases returning.

Seems doubtful ... considering the known risks associated with vaccinations.

The price tag of the penalty here appears mostly punitive.

 

[loveofourlord]

Seems doubtful ... considering the known risks associated with vaccinations.

The price tag of the penalty here appears mostly punitive.

Known risks, are extremly small considering the number of deaths and health risks without vaccinations, just look at what happened in Disney land.

 

[loveofourlord]

Seems doubtful ... considering the known risks associated with vaccinations.

The price tag of the penalty here appears mostly punitive.

Oh and how is that punative? thats money they arn't giving to you freely that can be going to pay for potential outbreaks you cause.

Would you be okay with the goverment charging you for damages caused by a outbreak if it can be directly linked to you or your child refusing to get vaccinated?

 

[NightHawkeye]

Known risks, are extremly small considering the number of deaths and health risks without vaccinations, just look at what happened in Disney land.

Thanks for raising the issue of diseases being introduced by illegal immigrants. That's an issue which deserves to be addressed.

 

[stray bullet]

Seems doubtful ... considering the known risks associated with vaccinations.

Which are like none.

 

[NightHawkeye]

Which are like none.

Tell that to the Centers for Disease Control ...

Vaccines and Immunizations: Listing of Side Effects | CDC

A vaccine, like any medicine, could cause a serious reaction.​

 

[loveofourlord]

Thanks for raising the issue of diseases being introduced by illegal immigrants. That's an issue which deserves to be addressed.

vacationer = ilegal immigrant? Most outbreaks are by americans traveling to countries without vaccine programs and coming back.

 

[loveofourlord]

Tell that to the Centers for Disease Control ...

Vaccines and Immunizations: Listing of Side Effects | CDC

A vaccine, like any medicine, could cause a serious reaction.​

Could, but are far less dangerous then the effects of the dieases they are meant to prevent.

 

[NightHawkeye]

vacationer = ilegal immigrant? Most outbreaks are by americans traveling to countries without vaccine programs and coming back.

The specific issue was the Disneyland outbreak which involved both immigrants and American citizens ... though, curiously, the CDC declined to designate a "patient zero" identified as having started the outbreak.

 

[NightHawkeye]

Could, but are far less dangerous then the effects of the dieases they are meant to prevent.

Similarly, the possibility of catching a nearly eradicated disease becomes miniscule ... which is the reason some parents choose not to vaccinate. When I was young I was vaccinated for smallpox. No one seriously considers vaccinating against that anymore ... though occasional reports of a potential case turn up every now and again.

 

[stray bullet]

Tell that to the Centers for Disease Control ...

Vaccines and Immunizations: Listing of Side Effects | CDC

A vaccine, like any medicine, could cause a serious reaction.​

And driving to school could get your kid killed and far greater odds. The risk is so small that any parent that worries about it should not be caring for kids.

 

[loveofourlord]

Similarly, the possibility of catching a nearly eradicated disease becomes miniscule ... which is the reason some parents choose not to vaccinate. When I was young I was vaccinated for smallpox. No one seriously considers vaccinating against that anymore ... though occasional reports of a potential case turn up every now and again.

ummmm....there is no cases of small pox, there is no small pox outside of a couple of labratories.

And most of these diseases are eradicated due to vaccinations, just have to look at Washington, California and a few other places to see what these diseases are ready to come back the second people like you refuse to get vaccianted.

And again, can the goverment sue you, or lock you up if your child gets polio or such and kids get sick, hospitalized, paralyzed, or die because of your neglegence?

 

[loveofourlord]

The specific issue was the Disneyland outbreak which involved both immigrants and American citizens ... though, curiously, the CDC declined to designate a "patient zero" identified as having started the outbreak.

Disney land is a place with vacationers and such, and it can be hard to identify a patient zero, the disease came from the philipenes.

 

[NightHawkeye]

And driving to school could get your kid killed and far greater odds. The risk is so small that any parent that worries about it should not be caring for kids.

You really might consider a more libertarian mindset ... since we both agree that the risks either way are very small. Really, it's not necessary to enforce conformity for every little thing in life. Just sayin ...

 

[loveofourlord]

You really might consider a more libertarian mindset ... since we both agree that the risks either way are very small. Really, it's not necessary to enforce conformity for every little thing in life. Just sayin ...

Public health is very much the kind of thing that requires regulations when lives are risked by not upholding certain standards and such then it can be very important. anti vaccination groups have been linked to majority of the cases and outbreaks in the US in the last few years. Again look at California and Washington where two majour outbreaks centered around anti vaccination groups.

 

[KitKatMatt]

Parents will still be able to refuse on medical grounds, which is good.

But parents will still be able to refuse for religious reasons? Are there strict criteria for this? This seems like it completely defeats the point of this penalty.