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Astronomy: Evolution is False!

Discussion in 'Creation & Evolution' started by Milan45, Nov 20, 2012.

  1. Milan45

    Milan45 Teutonic Order of Knights

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    Why Christianity is real:

    -Evolution is logically impossible because nothing good can be caused by explosions.If I would put a dynamite in a car, would there be many small car-toys? No, it will blow into pieces.

    -And if the Big Bang, the planet or star, whatever, exploded, all planets would have a similar look and materials as it. If it exploded, then how water came? It spawned? Or something? The Sun, has more then 90% hydrogen and helium, while the Earth has less then 1%. If it all comes from the same thing, then it would be similar, but it isn't.

    -The evolution is just a theory, but in the Bible we read that Christianity is real.It's just a thinking of a single man.

    -The evolution theory violates the second law of Thermodynamics, which states "Things are getting older, loosing their potential over time". But in evolution, species mutate to better species, which VIOLATES, IT, while in the Bible we read that Earth will be destroyed, which confirms it.

    -From where Big Bang came? What created it? Something must create something, but in evolution, it is beyond belief...
     
  2. CabVet

    CabVet Question everything

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    verysincere Exegete/Linguist

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    Please don't confuse Biblical Theology with these infamous pseudo-science claims of some of the more extreme young earth creationist cult leaders. It only serves to taint the teachings of Jesus with a lot of nonsense which cannot be found in the Bible. Those who have actually opened a science textbook can explain to you that the Big Bang Theory has nothing to do with the theory of evolution and the Laws of Thermodynamics refer to HEAT ENGINES and say nothing about mutations and the diversification of life forms. You are simply perpetuating silly myths which insult the intelligence of thinking Christians.
     
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    Wiccan_Child Contributor

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    The arguments here are so poor I can't help but think you're either a Troll, or it's something to do with the language barrier. God help you if you're serious...

    None of your arguments actually show Christianity is real.

    1) Evolution isn't an explosion, so it doesn't matter if explosions cause good things or not.
    2) Explosions can, in fact, cause good things:

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    Did you know these were carved with dynamite?

    The solar system coalesced from the primordial dust cloud, filled with a myriad of elements - chiefly hydrogen, but also heavier elements. These elements did different things, due to their different masses and chemical properties. The end result is groups of rocky lumps - planets, moons, asteroids - and gaseous lumps - the gas giants, the Sun, etc.

    In other words, it's simply incorrect that they should all be similar.

    Evolution is indeed just a theory, as is the chemical theory that says atoms exist, as is the biological theory that says germs cause disease.

    The Bible does indeed say that Christianity is true, just as the Qu'ran says Islam is true.

    The second law of thermodynamics says that the entropy of a closed system tends to a maximum. Entropy has a very precise thermodynamic meaning, which Creationists often overlook in their attempt to justify their religion.

    The cause of the Big Bang is unrelated to evolution. Whether it's a natural phenomenon, or the action of the Hindu God Krishna, or something else entirely, has absolutely no bearing on the veracity of the theory of evolution.

    As it happens, we do not know what caused the Big Bang, if it had a cause, or if it was the beginning of the universe.
     
  5. verysincere

    verysincere Exegete/Linguist

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    You've adopted the myth that the Big Bang was some sort of chemical or atomic explosion. It was an EXPANSION of space-time itself. But even if it WAS a conventional explosion, your reasoning about the components of planets vs. stars is inane. Please educate yourself before trolling. (Using your logic, I could deny the existence of popcorn because you reasoned that an explosion couldn't reduce some objects to dust while popcorn seeds because big white, edible fluffy puffs.)

    I assume you are trolling in an effort to parody science-illiterates who repeat what they read on silly websites. But those of us who are Bible-affirming Christians do not appreciate this kind of science-denying ridicule. Please take your mockery of the Bible elsewhere.
     
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    freezerman2000 What a long,strange trip it's been! CF Ambassador Angels Team

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    Just when I thought I had heard it all.. [​IMG]
     
  7. Milan45

    Milan45 Teutonic Order of Knights

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    God is real.

    Please stop with your empty words and .....okay okay anyway God is real :)

    What could you loose from being a Christian? Nothing. What can you loose from being an atheist? Everything.

    I'm off. See ya [maybe].
     
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    On top of all of the science fail in the opening post, we now get Pascal's Wager.

    Pascal's Wager - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    What if we were created by a deity who purposefully hid from us and expected us to use Reason. Only those who became atheists because of Reason will be allowed to pass into the afterlife. It seems that you have much to lose by believing in the wrong gods.
     
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    Allegedly.

    Allegedly.

    If Islam is true, you go to Hell. So... why should I take that risk?

    Or maybe the afterlife is based on morality - good people go to Heaven, bad people go to Hell. Or maybe the afterlife is base on piety - atheists go to Heaven, theists go to Hell.

    I don't know, and neither do you.

    Ah, hit and run. Tell me, do you really believe the arguments you laid forth in the OP?
     
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    verysincere Exegete/Linguist

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    Posting lies represents the ultimate in "empty words". The 9th Commandment prohibits a false witness.
     
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    Naraoia Apprentice Biologist

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    Because it's a clearly existing religion billions of people believe in. :|
     
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    46AND2 Forty six and two are just ahead of me...

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    Holy smokes! You sure packed a lot of preposterous reasoning into one post!
     
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    Cute Tink Providing a Judgment Free Zone CF Ambassador

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    Christianity is real because there are people who hold to that faith. I think you mean that Christianity is truth... :doh:

    I have yet to hear a single person claim that evolution happens when creatures explode...

    You should probably have noticed by now, but the Earth is not a star and the Sun is not a planet. There's probably a reason for those differences.

    Wrong definition of theory. My science book says evolution is real by the way and there's a lot more variety of science books.

    Scientists also theorize that the Earth will probably be destroyed one day. So I guess that means, according to your "logic" that science confirms it too. Tell you what, you and I can meet a few billion years in the future and see whether the Earth is actually destroyed or not and we can argue who predicted it properly. ;)

    Perhaps you could actually complete this thought...
     
  14. Scientific vocabulary lesson:

    Theory - (noun) A statement that contains scientific observations.

    Hypothesis - (noun) A testable conjecture used as a tentative explanation of an observation, but which has not yet been fully tested by the prediction validation process for a scientific theory.

    Evolution is indeed a theory, while creationism is merely a hypothesis. Creationism must defer to evolution, because evolution has a "higher rank", so to speak, than creationism.
     
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    Naraoia Apprentice Biologist

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    Several creatures explode (or make others explode) to disperse their progeny. Reproduction and evolution are intimately linked. There ya go! :D
     
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    Milan45 Teutonic Order of Knights

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    The Good News / Gospel Message - YouTube :)

    To others, I just tried to defend God , armed with some poor facts against Evolution, but I know it isn't true.Maybe I am not intelligent as you are well educated here.

    But GOD IS MOST CLEVER BEING.And if He says that He created the World, I will trust Him!!!!! :)

    Farewell. :)
     
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    Why can't an omnipotent deity defend itself?
     
  18. If you're going to use what "God" said as ammunition in this argument, please provide evidence that "God" said anything on the matter. At the moment, all we can know for sure is that some men wrote parts of a book. The jury is still out on the claim that these writers were inspired by any divine being.
     
  19. 46AND2

    46AND2 Forty six and two are just ahead of me...

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    I would trust him, too. Unfortunately, we have no reason to believe we have ever heard from him...
     
  20. If only we had a memo at the front of every Bible with the almighty's signature.

    "Dear readers,

    This book was, indeed, written by the omnipotent, omnibenevolent, omniscient deity that created you all. That deity is Me.

    Signed,
    Who am
    (Godly signature here)"
     
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