Are women unhappier than men...

[LOVEthroughINTELLECT]

I suppose that this is more psychology and sociology than ethics/morality, but this is the only forum I know to bring it up in.

Please don't ask for "evidence" or "sources"--I am working 2 jobs now, therefore I don't have the energy. I am sure that with a few keystrokes within Google you will find such things yourself--and be more alert than me. Anyway,...

I. Women are unhappier than men, studies show.

II. Men commit suicide at rates that far exceed women's rates in almost every country, it seems is a well-known fact.


Therefore, could it be that a higher percentage of women than men report being unhappy not because of struggling to balance work and family, higher rates of poverty, etc., but because a lot of the unhappy men have killed themselves?

 

[JaapAap]

I suppose that this is more psychology and sociology than ethics/morality, but this is the only forum I know to bring it up in.

Please don't ask for "evidence" or "sources"--I am working 2 jobs now, therefore I don't have the energy. I am sure that with a few keystrokes within Google you will find such things yourself--and be more alert than me. Anyway,...

I. Women are unhappier than men, studies show.

II. Men commit suicide at rates that far exceed women's rates in almost every country, it seems is a well-known fact.


Therefore, could it be that a higher percentage of women than men report being unhappy not because of struggling to balance work and family, higher rates of poverty, etc., but because a lot of the unhappy men kill themselves?

No women just don't succeed I think. A man takes a gun and a woman some pills. I read that somewhere.
http://www.livescience.com/45061-depression-differs-men-women-symptoms.html

 

[quatona]

I suppose that this is more psychology and sociology than ethics/morality, but this is the only forum I know to bring it up in.

Please don't ask for "evidence" or "sources"--I am working 2 jobs now, therefore I don't have the energy. I am sure that with a few keystrokes within Google you will find such things yourself--and be more alert than me. Anyway,...

I. Women are unhappier than men, studies show.

II. Men commit suicide at rates that far exceed women's rates in almost every country, it seems is a well-known fact.


Therefore, could it be that a higher percentage of women than men report being unhappy not because of struggling to balance work and family, higher rates of poverty, etc., but because a lot of the unhappy men have killed themselves?

No, that wouldn´t make much sense.
The suicide rate e.g. in the USA: around 12 in 100.000 - i.e. 0,01% per anno. Even if we assume that the suicide rate in males is twice as high (0,02% per anno), and if we assume that each of these guys is married and his wife´s unhappiness is caused by his suicide, this would mean:
Your hypothesis, at best, applies to 0,02% of all women.
Since these are per anno rates, let´s further be generous and assume the duration of a marriage be 50 years.
Your hypothesis, at best, applies to 1% of all women.
This is a completely insignificant factor for determining what causes the unhappiness of women in general.

(Hope I got the math right. It´s not my forte.)

 

[RC1970]

I. Women are unhappier than men, studies show.

I think this is probably due to women being more likely to admit they are unhappy.

 

[Autumnleaf]

I suppose that this is more psychology and sociology than ethics/morality, but this is the only forum I know to bring it up in.

Please don't ask for "evidence" or "sources"--I am working 2 jobs now, therefore I don't have the energy. I am sure that with a few keystrokes within Google you will find such things yourself--and be more alert than me. Anyway,...

I. Women are unhappier than men, studies show.

II. Men commit suicide at rates that far exceed women's rates in almost every country, it seems is a well-known fact.


Therefore, could it be that a higher percentage of women than men report being unhappy not because of struggling to balance work and family, higher rates of poverty, etc., but because a lot of the unhappy men have killed themselves?

Good question. You should be writing a thesis on this for a doctorate degree.

 

[asherahSamaria]

Given how most religions tend to treat women as subservient to men - I'd like to see a crosstabs of women's happiness against a religiosity indicator of the country. That would be quite interesting I think.

 

[keith99]

I think this is probably due to women being more likely to admit they are unhappy.

Ding, ding, ding, we have a winner.

All I have to add is expressing, but not dwelling upon, unhappiness is apt to reduce the chances of a drastic solution like suicide. That women complain and in so doing unload the unhappiness may contribute to a lower suicide rate for women. Our society discourages such unloading by men.

 

[lisah]

Therefore, could it be that a higher percentage of women than men report being unhappy not because of struggling to balance work and family, higher rates of poverty, etc., but because a lot of the unhappy men have killed themselves?

Maybe women are more accepting of a certain level of unhappiness and have lower expectations for happiness than men do?

 

[ThatRobGuy]

I think this is probably due to women being more likely to admit they are unhappy.

I think this is a big part of it...

In terms of the other differences, men or more likely (statistically) to take life than women in general.

Males commit over 90% of the homicides in this country.
Women make up over 70% of the patients who seek counseling.

In a nutshell, to me, that means... Women are more likely to want to talk about their problems, Men are more likely to want to act on them.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

Maybe women are more accepting of a certain level of unhappiness and have lower expectations for happiness than men do?

Another aspect that has to be considered is that society puts more pressure on men to be successful, than it puts on women in certain realms.

For a woman, she can be treated with a equitable measure of respect by her peers and the opposite gender whether she's a ----stay at home mom,
-a trophy wife,
-or successful business woman.

For men, respect by the peers and opposite sex typically only happens for the last item on that list.

 

[lisah]

Another aspect that has to be considered is that society puts more pressure on men to be successful, than it puts on women in certain realms.

For a woman, she can be treated with a equitable measure of respect by her peers and the opposite gender whether she's a ----stay at home mom,
-a trophy wife,
-or successful business woman.

For men, respect by the peers and opposite sex typically only happens for the last item on that list.

Maybe women have better support systems than men?

 

[ThatRobGuy]

Maybe women have better support systems than men?

I don't know if support systems really play that much of a factor in terms of the societal aspects I was referring to. Or, I guess you could look at it as society's view on matters is their support system.

If a woman doesn't work, and is a stay at home wife, most people aren't going to think anything of it or treat her any differently as a result. If a man stayed home all day and lived off of his wife, he'd get the label of "loser" or "deadbeat"

 

[Ana the Ist]

I suppose that this is more psychology and sociology than ethics/morality, but this is the only forum I know to bring it up in.

Please don't ask for "evidence" or "sources"--I am working 2 jobs now, therefore I don't have the energy. I am sure that with a few keystrokes within Google you will find such things yourself--and be more alert than me. Anyway,...

I. Women are unhappier than men, studies show.

II. Men commit suicide at rates that far exceed women's rates in almost every country, it seems is a well-known fact.


Therefore, could it be that a higher percentage of women than men report being unhappy not because of struggling to balance work and family, higher rates of poverty, etc., but because a lot of the unhappy men have killed themselves?

Google and a few keystrokes has shown your premise false....

http://www.forbes.com/sites/meghanc...n-are-happier-than-men-testosterone-to-blame/

 

[MehGuy]

I suppose that this is more psychology and sociology than ethics/morality, but this is the only forum I know to bring it up in.

Please don't ask for "evidence" or "sources"--I am working 2 jobs now, therefore I don't have the energy. I am sure that with a few keystrokes within Google you will find such things yourself--and be more alert than me. Anyway,...

I. Women are unhappier than men, studies show.

II. Men commit suicide at rates that far exceed women's rates in almost every country, it seems is a well-known fact.


Therefore, could it be that a higher percentage of women than men report being unhappy not because of struggling to balance work and family, higher rates of poverty, etc., but because a lot of the unhappy men have killed themselves?

Yes, suicide is the ultimate measure of unhappiness..

The vast majority of slaves did not commit suicide, which must mean they were alright... lol.

I think more women report being unhappy because they on average have higher rates of internal empathy than men. While men are not sociopathic, I believe hardships on life tend to more easily slide off their backs than they do for women. Men tend to not let sadness develop into something pathological.

 

[Strathos]

Given how most religions tend to treat women as subservient to men - I'd like to see a crosstabs of women's happiness against a religiosity indicator of the country. That would be quite interesting I think.

And yet atheists are some of the most sexist people around that it's even become a stereotype.

 

[MehGuy]

And yet atheists are some of the most sexist people around that it's even become a stereotype.

Or we are just unfairly being branded sexists by deranged feminists. Lol..

 

[Strathos]

I rest my case

 

[MehGuy]

I rest my case

Oh yes, I forgot feminist=women.

 

[asherahSamaria]

And yet atheists are some of the most sexist people around that it's even become a stereotype.

Evidence?

 

[MehGuy]

Evidence?

Gamers are pretty sexist too, lol.