Are we in the last of the last days?

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I can appreciate your sentiment.

Oddly enough, I feel compelled to comment on the reference you made to Ruth Graham's statement: "If God doesn't soon bring judgment upon America, He'll have to go back and apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah!" I may be wrong but this comment seems to suggest a lack of reverential fear of the Lord. God is God. He is the Almighty, the only true and everliving God, who knows the end from the beginning. He is the creator of the universe; the maker of the heavens and the earth. He will never apologize for anything, nor does He have to!! This is His universe - He is Yahweh.

I find the comment to be arrogant... just sharing my thoughts.
diane.

Good day "diane". I hope that you are well and looking forward to a great new year!

Now I am not speaking for anyone but me, but when I read the comment made by our brother, I took it to mean that God is going to judge the world now as he did then. What happened to Sodom and Gomorrah is what God will do when He judges sin, and the world.

I have that book by the way where Mrs. Graham, made that comment and when I originally read many years ago, and I went back to read it once again, and the context she was putting forth was that because God did judge those cities as He did, He will certainly do it again which should cause us to have a reverent fear.

Personally I did not understand the comment to be arrogant but instead insightful.......but that is just me.

Be safe!
 
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God's purpose is to establish His Kingdom here on earth. He must eradicate al bad and evil before He can do that. The is no place in His Kingdom for murderers such as Islam and Muslems.
1 John 3:15 Whoever hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him.
Hebrews 11:16 But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for He hath prepared for them a city.
Hebrews 12:22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,
Zephaniah 3:16 In that day it shall be said to Jerusalem, Fear thou not: and to Zion, Let not thine hands be slack.
Deuteronomy 7:10 And repayeth them that hate him to their face, to destroy them: he will not be slack to him that hateth him, he will repay him to his face.

Agreed. The fact is that God will allow no one into His kingdom who does not accept the Lord Jesus Christ.

That alone removes a lot of "Religious" people who think that they will be in God's Kingdom.
 
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The Gospel of God has finally revealed what the Tree of Life is last month so the millennium reign of Christ has accomplished it's mission to end the reign. Now we can expect the day of the Lord soon. Below are links to what was revealed to me this past 8 1/2 years while testifying to the knowledge called Christ that reveals all the hidden things from MAN like what the Beast is and why it was needed, who we are IN GOD, how we're created, knowledge about the day of the Lord destruction and how we'll experience life in the next generation called the New Heaven and Earth.

What is the Beast and the Antichrist?
God and you are ONE.

We ALL can and should know that the return of the lord Jesus Christ is at hand, NOT because God has revealed it to YOU but because He has revealed it to all men in His written Word called the Bible.
 
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Less than a year. Something should happen this year.



Just like in the days of Noah, just as it was in the days of Lot.



None is required. We should be virgins, not defiled by woman. All corporate religion can now find a home somewhere in the seven heads of the composite beast from Revelation 13.



I do too. I think that we're living in the final minutes of a delay that was created when the 5th angel from Revelation 7 spoke the word "until':

“Do not harm the earth or the sea or the trees, until we have sealed the servants of our God on their foreheads.”



I generally don't watch the videos that I have to read text from, but yours was only 4 minutes long so I did read your video. Most people don't seem to notice the moral decay that we've slipped into or even care that it matters. I think that you've found the abomination of desolation without knowing it.

I was in a large Canadian bank last summer where they had 3 big flat screen televisions that were playing their corporate commercials. One of the segments included their endorsement of the LGBT community which even displayed a list of the upcoming gay pride parades:


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TD Bank celebrates Pride 2016. Join us! | TD Bank

The commercial features a circular rainbow emblem with various slogans like "forever proud" and "we're proud of our rainbow". It felt weird standing there in a major banking institution watching the homosexual couples smiling and hugging each other on the bank's own TV commercial. I felt so strange and alienated there. I couldn't believe my eyes, I thought that I was going to pass out. Like, am I the only one that thinks this is wrong? I'm about to turn 55, is this just the beginning of the old guy syndrome approaching? I don't think so.

"And at the latter end of their kingdom,
when the transgressors have reached their limit,
a king of bold face, one who understands riddles, shall arise.


"In the latter part of their reign,
when rebels have become completely wicked,
a fierce-looking king, a master of intrigue, will arise.


Think of it like the "abomination that makes desolate" is when the "transgressors have reached their limit". Notice a Divine "limit to transgression", it's the kingdom of the transgressors not the kingdom of Alexander's 4 horns anymore. This is not talking about a specific nation or kingdom, but instead has shifted to our appointed time of the end and is referring to the prevailing number or group of world wide transgressing individuals.

"When rebels have become completely wicked", used to make me think there would be wild gunfights in the streets and mass murder shootings every day. That's how I thought the end of the world would look like when I first read Daniel 8 back in the day of my youth. But here we are now and the rebels have become completely wicked in a subtle way that I wouldn't have imagined and they are now condoned by the mainstream establishment. And guess what? If I were to open my mouth and complain about it in there, I would be the one looked at as the bad guy. The gentiles are starting to trample on the holy city of citizens.

Was it Billy Graham's wife who said something like: "If God doesn't do something soon, He'll owe Sodom and Gomorrah an apology". I feel like I can point at it with a stick, like how Babe Ruth did it. Any day now, it's almost here. When you can walk into a financial institution and be presented with 3 flat screen TVs of a major bank validating the lifestyle of the sodomites, we won't have to wait much longer.


"If God doesn't soon bring judgment upon America, He'll have to go back and apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah!" - Ruth Graham



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No sir.........YOU are not the only one!!!!

My wife and I live near Orlando Fl. and Disney World.

If you think that your experience in that bank was odd, try being in Orlando when they have their annual "Gay Day Parade".

Then for a real treat, be in Disney when they have their "Gay Pride Week".
 
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The raw truth about what is, and what is to come. I invite you to view our 4-minute video, and I ask the question: Are we in the last of the last days?

Sin is like rust on a car! At first, you notice a spot of rust but 99% of your vehicle is still intact. You may not think much of that one spot of rust. You may even become desensitized to it, and so you let it go. But left alone it will consume your entire vehicle.

Sin is moral debt to God. As the years go by, the debt grows and grows... The world has spiraled out of control. Much of the world's population has become desensitized to the level of moral indiscretions and has no fear of God. Sadly, you can see this same attitude in many of our churches... we have no fear of God!

How much longer do you think God is going to let this go on? Sinful humanity is on a collision course with the Almighty - but they don't know what they don't know! What is our excuse for sin in the church? I believe we are in the last of the last days. Upon viewing the video, what do you think?

(If you have any interest in viewing any of our short videos on End Times Gospel, click here.)

diane.
According to Acts 2, we've been in the last days since the Descent of the Holy Spirit at Pentecost.

Whether these are the last days of the late great planet Earth, I know not, but at 66 these could well be my last days.
 
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According to Acts 2, we've been in the last days since the Descent of the Holy Spirit at Pentecost.

Whether these are the last days of the late great planet Earth, I know not, but at 66 these could well be my last days.

Come on now brother! I have several years on you and as long as we are trying to stay in the will of God.....He is not through with us.

Remember, it is NOT over when the fat lady says it is, it is only over when God says it is my brother.

However, I agree with you completely on the days we are in.

May 14, 1948 did not begin the "Last Days" but it did allow for the signs Jesus spoke of to take place in Matt. 24. The people had to be back in the Promised Land for those things to take place.
 
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It will only take one hour from the time the earth starts to shake violently until everything man built with his human hands have been destroyed and all the inhabitants on earth have perished. Then MAN and GOD will be freed from the enemies called Satan and the Beast.

Revelation 18
10: they will stand far off, in fear of her torment, and say, "Alas! alas! thou great city, thou mighty city, Babylon! In one hour has thy judgment come."
11: And the merchants of the earth weep and mourn for her, since no one buys their cargo any more,
12: cargo of gold, silver, jewels and pearls, fine linen, purple, silk and scarlet, all kinds of scented wood, all articles of ivory, all articles of costly wood, bronze, iron and marble,
13: cinnamon, spice, incense, myrrh, frankincense, wine, oil, fine flour and wheat, cattle and sheep, horses and chariots, and slaves, that is, human souls.
14: "The fruit for which thy soul longed has gone from thee, and all thy dainties and thy splendor are lost to thee, never to be found again!"
15: The merchants of these wares, who gained wealth from her, will stand far off, in fear of her torment, weeping and mourning aloud,
16: "Alas, alas, for the great city that was clothed in fine linen, in purple and scarlet, bedecked with gold, with jewels, and with pearls!
17: In one hour all this wealth has been laid waste." And all shipmasters and seafaring men, sailors and all whose trade is on the sea, stood far off
18: and cried out as they saw the smoke of her burning, "What city was like the great city?"
19: And they threw dust on their heads, as they wept and mourned, crying out, "Alas, alas, for the great city where all who had ships at sea grew rich by her wealth! In one hour she has been laid waste.
20: Rejoice over her, O heaven, O saints and apostles and prophets, for God has given judgment for you against her!"
21: Then a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone and threw it into the sea, saying, "So shall Babylon the great city be thrown down with violence, and shall be found no more;
22: and the sound of harpers and minstrels, of flute players and trumpeters, shall be heard in thee no more; and a craftsman of any craft shall be found in thee no more; and the sound of the millstone shall be heard in thee no more;
23: and the light of a lamp shall shine in thee no more; and the voice of bridegroom and bride shall be heard in thee no more; for thy merchants were the great men of the earth, and all nations were deceived by thy sorcery.
24: And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints, and of all who have been slain on earth."

Attempting to support your view by Quoting from a Book you are previously on the record as claiming to be false and written by antichrist is kinda odd, don't ya think?
 
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Given this passage I think it should be clear where we are:

Mark 13:29 In the same way, when you see all these things taking place, you can know that his return is very near, right at the door

God Bless All :)


Near to God is not the same as near to us.

Based on that fact we can know He is saying "when you see all these things taking place, you can know that his return could still be thousands of years away"
 
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Attempting to support your view by Quoting from a Book you are previously on the record as claiming to be false and written by antichrist is kinda odd, don't ya think?

What is that book ? The Bible???
 
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What is that book ? The Bible???
Yes. Our friend 2X4 is on the record in his previous postings as claiming the New Testament was written by antichrist, the Gospels are false, etc... so it seems odd to me that he would appeal to the very texts he has disparaged as unreliable to support his view.
 
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Less than a year. Something should happen this year.

Are you just as sure as you were 2 years ago when you said something similar in THIS POST?

"Since July 2013 I've been fairly sure that Springtime 2015 would be the start of it."

I suppose now, like then, when it fails to come to pass this year you can just post something similar next year, and the next, and next, and next...

What good is a goalpost if it can't be moved again and again and again, right?
 
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Good day "diane". I hope that you are well and looking forward to a great new year!

Now I am not speaking for anyone but me, but when I read the comment made by our brother, I took it to mean that God is going to judge the world now as he did then. What happened to Sodom and Gomorrah is what God will do when He judges sin, and the world.

I have that book by the way where Mrs. Graham, made that comment and when I originally read many years ago, and I went back to read it once again, and the context she was putting forth was that because God did judge those cities as He did, He will certainly do it again which should cause us to have a reverent fear.

Personally I did not understand the comment to be arrogant but instead insightful.......but that is just me.

Be safe!
Greetings, Major 1. I agree completely that God will judge the world now as He did then. I suppose I should have given greater explanation in my post for my use of the word 'arrogant'.

I guess what I take exception to are the words, "He'll have to..." My mind goes immediately to Job ch. 30 - 42. I'm sure you are very familiar with the text. The Lord speaks, answering Job by putting forth numerous questions. Allow me to cite a few examples: "Who is this that darkens my counsel with words without knowledge?"... "Where were you when I laid the earth's foundation? Tell me, if you understand."... "Have you ever given orders to the morning, or shown the dawn its place?"... "Do you send the lightning bolts on their way? Do they report to you, 'here we are'?"... The Lord said to Job, "Will the one who contends with the Almighty correct him? Let him who accuses God answer him!" ... "Who has a claim against me that I must pay? Everything under heaven belongs to me."... Job responds, "I am unworthy - how can I reply to you? I put my hand over my mouth. I spoke once, but I have no answer - twice, but I will say no more."

This is just my personal conviction, but I feel that when we place ourselves in the position of deciding for God what He has to do, I view this as a position of 'arrogance'. Job learned this lesson well and was humbled.

I don't know if my view makes sense to anyone else out there, but 'arrogance' is the position which I hear these words from: "He'll have to..."
diane.
 
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the players are set
the stage is ready
and the lights are on.

Oh this is a winner. I like the way she thinks.

In terms of baseball innings. We've entered the top of the 9th.

After Israel wins the war later this year, it'll be the middle of the 9th. Well, they'll be aided and really won by another for Israel.

And after the foundation of the temple completed, we're at the bottom of the 9th and than it's checkmate.









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From The Prophecy That Is Shaping History
Ezekiel Chapter 38:1 evaluates the major interpretive options of the Gog prophecy and demonstrates that a fairly literal interpretation best fits the evidence, viz., that in the future a coalition of identifiable nations from all points of the compass—though principally from the “farthest parts of the north”—will invade a Land of Israel to which the people of Israel have been recently regathered. The data show that, apart from Magog, all nations on Ezekiel’s list have clear referents in the area—particularly Rosh. One important finding is that Ezekiel’s Rosh clearly lent its name to the modern state of Russia. Despite the popular American acceptance of Russia’s End Time destiny as they believed Ezekiel foretold it, most modern biblical scholarship generally views this scenario as an absurdity. However, President Reagan’s view of Ezekiel’s prophecy was not limited, however, to shaping America’s relations with Russia; it also influenced his relationship with other nations. Apparently represented by the nations of “Paras, Cush and Put” (Ezekiel 38:5). J. Simons, Geographical and Topographical Texts of the Old Testament (Leiden: E. J. Brill, 1959), ad loc. He believed, for example, that the Arab nations of the Middle East would participate in the End Time invasion of Israel. On this basis he also correctly predicted the fall of Ethiopia26 into the orbit of Communism. Moreover, the same prophecy may have shaped the President’s relations with Libya—a nation he saw (in Ezekiel 38:5, under the name “Put”) allied with Ezekiel’s Rosh against Israel. In April, 1986, American and British aircraft attacked Benghazi and Tripoli (almost killing Libyan President Ghadafi) [Which we now know that he was later killed] in retaliation for the deaths of several American military personnel killed in the bombing of a discotheque in Germany by Libyan terrorists. Also Robertson remains convinced that Ezekiel 38-39 will be fulfilled by the invasion of Israel by Russia.
Just two verses after the passage being debated, Ezekiel lists three nations, and the list follows the same pattern as “Rosh [no AND] Meshech AND Tubal,” above: “Paras [no AND] Cush, AND Put” (38:5). Ezekiel 27 substantiates the fact that these names were real nations whose identity could be traced far into the future—that is, toward the fulfillment of Ezekiel’s prophecy. This list, which portrays commercial activity in the 6th century BCE, includes five of the names on the war list in Ezekiel 38 (Paras, Put, Meshech, Tubal, and Beth Togarmah).
The astonishing rise of pandemic Islamic fundamentalism, with its anti-Semitism and a hatred of the restored Land of Israel as central tenets, has already linked remote countries in coordinated action, as the Muslim invasions and attempted invasions of Israel in 1948, 1956, 1967, 1973, 1982, and 2000 to the present, demonstrate. Today, the nations occupying the territories of Ezekiel’s prophecy (Paras, Cush, and Put) are, respectively, Iran,57 Sudan, and Libya—precisely the “peripheral” nations that commentators insisted could not be associated. Significantly, these three Arab nations are on record as being the most vociferously anti-Zionist of the Arab world. They also represent the most aggressive Islamic states in their training and export of terrorism worldwide. Iran (Ezekiel’s Paras/Persia) underwent an Islamic revolution at the end of the 1970s that reoriented the country against the West—whom Arabs call “the Crusaders”—and against Israel.82 Libya (Ezekiel’s Put) follows the radical Islamic agenda of its leader, Mu‛mmar Qadhafi, [Now overthrown and dead] and represents a major player within Islamic extremism.83 These days, the Islamic government of (northern) Sudan (Ezekiel’s Cush) is waging a brutal war against the Christian and animist Sudanese in the southern part of the country, killing them by the tens and hundreds of thousands a year, selling prisoners into slavery, and compelling young girls to marry Muslim men, thereby forcing their conversion and genital mutilation. So we now see a remarkable and intimate association of three radical Islamic states which are committed to one goal: the annihilation of Israel, and are the very countries Ezekiel said would ultimately strive mightily toward this purpose (cf. Psalm 83:1-8a). In both ancient and modern Hebrew, Paras is the name of Iran/Persia. This alone should put a stop to argument. However, Ezekiel himself describes an earlier alliance of Paras, Lud (Lydia) and Put (North Africa) in 27:10. Moreover, There is no alternative nation known from this period that could assume the name, “Paras,” and, the location of Paras as Persia in the east, preserves the image of allied nations attacking Israel from every possible direction.
The HAMAS Charter cites the Hadith [official book of Islamic doctrine] on the Day of Judgment in the following terms: “The Last Hour would not come until Muslims fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them, and until the Jews would hide themselves
behind a stone or a tree, and a stone or a tree would say, ‘Muslim, oh Servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me—come and kill him!’” Certainly, the other invading nations—Paras (today’s Iran, whose name in modern Hebrew remains Paras), Cush (now northern, Muslim Sudan, just south of modern Egypt on the Nile), and Put (associated with modern Libya)—represent the other three limited “four corners” of the then-known earth, if, indeed, that was the intent of the passage. In today’s small world, these nations are hardly out of Israel’s neighborhood. The Nations Involved: The Gog prophecy begins with God calling
Ezekiel to express an oracle against a specific list of nations which we have already identified in the previous chapters: the northern nations, Gog of the land of Magog, Rosh, Meshech, Tubal, Gomer, Togarmah—all from the north—[after the Russian takeover of Syria] with other nations which perhaps represent the other three areas of the earth: Persia (the area of Iran) in the east, Cush (northern, Muslim Sudan) from the south, and Put (the area of Libya) from the west—all indicating a globally-based invasion. Still other nations, that seem to agree with the invasion, or at least do not oppose it, are similarly located: Sheba (Yemen), Dedan (area of Saudi Arabia), and Tarshish (far west) with all its “merchants” (Heb. socharey Tarshish)—an “economic union”). All of these will be driven by greed and envy (38:12,13; 39:10).
The Intended Victim: The People of the Lord in the Land of Israel

agreed. i was just reading this chapter this morning before i came upon your post here. at the time i wondered why this chapter, but now i know why--so i could confirm your post. which I do.
 
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Oh this is a winner. I like the way she thinks. In terms of baseball innings. We've entered the top of the 9th.
After Israel wins the war later this year, it'll be the middle of the 9th. Well, they'll be aided and really won by another for Israel. And after the foundation of the temple completed, we're at the bottom of the 9th and than it's checkmate.
Israel does not win, God wins with His victory over all nations that go up against Israel.
Isaiah 62:6-7 I have posted watchmen on your walls, Jerusalem; they will never be silent day or night. You who call on the Lord, give yourselves no rest, and give him no rest till he establishes Jerusalem and makes her the praise of the earth.
Mt 24:31 {With a great sound of a trumpet} (meta salpiggos fwnes megales). Some MSS. omit (fwnes) "sound." The trumpet was the signal employed to call the hosts of Israel to march as to war and is common in prophetic imagery (#Isa 27:13). Cf. the seventh angel (#Re 11:15). Clearly "the coming of the son of man is not to be identified with the judgment of Jerusalem but rather forms its preternatural background" (Bruce).
36 "But as to that day and the exact time no one knows--not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone.
Ezekiel 37:9 Then said he unto me, Prophesy unto the wind, prophesy, son of man, and say to the wind, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe upon these slain, that they may live.
Wind is frequently used in the Bible as a metaphor for some spiritual truth (e.g., Psalm 78:39 and Jeremiah 22:22). This holds true when the Bible refers to the “four winds.” The phrase “four winds” is used principally to describe the whole of the earth or heaven. The “four winds” encompass all directions or the “four corners” of the earth: north, south, east, and west (Jeremiah 49:36; Matthew 24:31).
The discrepancy is understandable, since the Hebrew word for “wind” can also mean “spirit.”
That the Hebrews recognized the existence of four prevailing winds as issuing, broadly speaking, from the four cardinal points, [of the Earth] north, south, east and west, may be inferred from their custom of using the expression "four winds" as equivalent to the "four quarters" of the hemisphere. ( Ezekiel 37:9 ; Daniel 8:8 ; Zechariah 2:6 ; Matthew 24:31 ) Smith's Bible Dictionary Easton's Bible Dictionary
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Yes. Our friend 2X4 is on the record in his previous postings as claiming the New Testament was written by antichrist, the Gospels are false, etc... so it seems odd to me that he would appeal to the very texts he has disparaged as unreliable to support his view.

Thank you for the info. I have spoken with him on another thread and realized that his statements were rather bazar and what you have shared tells me the reason!!!
 
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Israel does not win, God wins with His victory over all nations that go up against Israel.
Isaiah 62:6-7 I have posted watchmen on your walls, Jerusalem; they will never be silent day or night. You who call on the Lord, give yourselves no rest, and give him no rest till he establishes Jerusalem and makes her the praise of the earth.
Mt 24:31 {With a great sound of a trumpet} (meta salpiggos fwnes megales). Some MSS. omit (fwnes) "sound." The trumpet was the signal employed to call the hosts of Israel to march as to war and is common in prophetic imagery (#Isa 27:13). Cf. the seventh angel (#Re 11:15). Clearly "the coming of the son of man is not to be identified with the judgment of Jerusalem but rather forms its preternatural background" (Bruce).
36 "But as to that day and the exact time no one knows--not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone.
Ezekiel 37:9 Then said he unto me, Prophesy unto the wind, prophesy, son of man, and say to the wind, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe upon these slain, that they may live.
Wind is frequently used in the Bible as a metaphor for some spiritual truth (e.g., Psalm 78:39 and Jeremiah 22:22). This holds true when the Bible refers to the “four winds.” The phrase “four winds” is used principally to describe the whole of the earth or heaven. The “four winds” encompass all directions or the “four corners” of the earth: north, south, east, and west (Jeremiah 49:36; Matthew 24:31).
The discrepancy is understandable, since the Hebrew word for “wind” can also mean “spirit.”
That the Hebrews recognized the existence of four prevailing winds as issuing, broadly speaking, from the four cardinal points, [of the Earth] north, south, east and west, may be inferred from their custom of using the expression "four winds" as equivalent to the "four quarters" of the hemisphere. ( Ezekiel 37:9 ; Daniel 8:8 ; Zechariah 2:6 ; Matthew 24:31 ) Smith's Bible Dictionary Easton's Bible Dictionary
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I do agree. GOD always wins!

Ezekiel 38:23........
"Thus will I magnify myself, and sanctify myself; and I will be known in the eyes of many nations, and they shall know that I am the LORD."
 
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Greetings, Major 1. I agree completely that God will judge the world now as He did then. I suppose I should have given greater explanation in my post for my use of the word 'arrogant'.

I guess what I take exception to are the words, "He'll have to..." My mind goes immediately to Job ch. 30 - 42. I'm sure you are very familiar with the text. The Lord speaks, answering Job by putting forth numerous questions. Allow me to cite a few examples: "Who is this that darkens my counsel with words without knowledge?"... "Where were you when I laid the earth's foundation? Tell me, if you understand."... "Have you ever given orders to the morning, or shown the dawn its place?"... "Do you send the lightning bolts on their way? Do they report to you, 'here we are'?"... The Lord said to Job, "Will the one who contends with the Almighty correct him? Let him who accuses God answer him!" ... "Who has a claim against me that I must pay? Everything under heaven belongs to me."... Job responds, "I am unworthy - how can I reply to you? I put my hand over my mouth. I spoke once, but I have no answer - twice, but I will say no more."

This is just my personal conviction, but I feel that when we place ourselves in the position of deciding for God what He has to do, I view this as a position of 'arrogance'. Job learned this lesson well and was humbled.

I don't know if my view makes sense to anyone else out there, but 'arrogance' is the position which I hear these words from: "He'll have to..."
diane.

Thank you sister and yes I do understand. I have been around for a long time and in fact I agree with you completely.

That one fact, IMO is the reason why there is so much disagreement on Biblical theology and especially prophecy.

We, (People) get so indoctrinated and entrenched in what WE believe God has to do, we can not grasp the fact that WE might be wrong.

IMO, God is going to do what HE wants to do, WHEN He wants to do it and it is US (People) who must conform to His Word and not our opinions and our time table.

I enjoy your input and hope that you will continue with us and stay in touch with me.
 
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Thank you sister and yes I do understand. I have been around for a long time and in fact I agree with you completely.

That one fact, IMO is the reason why there is so much disagreement on Biblical theology and especially prophecy.

We, (People) get so indoctrinated and entrenched in what WE believe God has to do, we can not grasp the fact that WE might be wrong.

IMO, God is going to do what HE wants to do, WHEN He wants to do it and it is US (People) who must conform to His Word and not our opinions and our time table.

I enjoy your input and hope that you will continue with us and stay in touch with me.
Thank you, Major 1.
 
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