An Aramaic Lord's Prayer???

[BeStill&Know]

I don't know the Aramaic tongue, and hope someone here will hear this and tell me if it is the actual "Lord's Prayer" in the Bible in Aramaic or something else? I read the comments below the video and it did not answer that question. Some mixed comments sounded as it was, and others appeared to be from other religious beliefs. Thank you.

 

[SteveCaruso]

This is the Lord's Prayer as it appears in the Syriac Peshitta (5th century Eastern Aramaic).

Jesus spoke earlier Galilean Aramaic (a Western dialect) which was in some way quite distinct from this one.

I've outlined my own attempts to reconstruct the Prayer in that dialect here.

 

[BeStill&Know]

thank you Steve, for your reply and link. Before I download it, I want to be sure it was not Hindu or something.
let me know if you ever hear music like this in Galilean Aramaic. Your web-page is most fascinating.
I'll follow you to see what I can learn. Blessed

 

[BeStill&Know]

This is the Lord's Prayer as it appears in the Syriac Peshitta (5th century Eastern Aramaic).
Jesus spoke earlier Galilean Aramaic (a Western dialect) which was in some way quite distinct from this one.
I've outlined my own attempts to reconstruct the Prayer in that dialect here.

Good morning, another question. Are you aware if there is a Aramaic new Testament: English text in Galilean Aramaic?
I found only this one on Amazon, but it does not say which dialect.
Aramaic New Testament: English text (Ancient Roots Translinear Bible Book 2) Kindle Edition
by A. Frances Werner

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Good morning, another question. Are you aware if there is a Aramaic new Testament: English text in Galilean Aramaic?
I found only this one on Amazon, but it does not say which dialect.
Aramaic New Testament: English text (Ancient Roots Translinear Bible Book 2) Kindle Edition
by A. Frances Werner

Wouldn't that be from the Greek to the Aramaic to English? Why not just use the Greek to English version?

 

[BeStill&Know]

Wouldn't that be from the Greek to the Aramaic to English? Why not just use the Greek to English version?

Read post #2. Peace

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Read post #2. Peace

Do we know if the Syriac was taken from the Greek or was the Syriac original?

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

The general, but not universal, consensus among Bible scholars is that the OT of the Peshitta was translated into Syriac from the Hebrew, probably in the 2nd century AD, and that the NT of the Peshitta was translated from the original Greek.
Sebastian P. Brock The Bible in the Syriac Tradition St. Ephrem Ecumenical Research Institute, 1988

 

[SteveCaruso]

But the Syriac Peshitta, as we have it today, is not written in 2nd century Syriac. It's written in 5th century Syriac (the n- preformative and a bunch of other features gives that away). Even the Old Syriac Gospels (which aren't written in Old Syriac – the Syriac dialect contemporary to Jesus – but in early Classical Syriac) are still too young.

Sadly, there are no NT texts that survive in Galilean, outside of a number of phrases and underlying puns in the Greek NT, but there is a fragmentary Christian Palestinian Aramaic NT which is written in a dialect closely related to Galilean. It, however, is very obviously a translation from the Greek (e.g. it refers to Jesus as "Yesus" instead of Yeshua, John as "Yohanes" instead of Yohanan, etc. – all of the names are transliterated from the Greek) and was made somewhere between the 4th and 5th centuries. (It's contemporary with the Peshitta.)

 

[BeStill&Know]

But the Syriac Peshitta, as we have it today, is not written in 2nd century Syriac. It's written in 5th century Syriac (the n- preformative and a bunch of other features gives that away). Even the Old Syriac Gospels (which aren't written in Old Syriac – the Syriac dialect contemporary to Jesus – but in early Classical Syriac) are still too young.

Sadly, there are no NT texts that survive in Galilean, outside of a number of phrases and underlying puns in the Greek NT, but there is a fragmentary Christian Palestinian Aramaic NT which is written in a dialect closely related to Galilean. It, however, is very obviously a translation from the Greek (e.g. it refers to Jesus as "Yesus" instead of Yeshua, John as "Yohanes" instead of Yohanan, etc. – all of the names are transliterated from the Greek) and was made somewhere between the 4th and 5th centuries. (It's contemporary with the Peshitta.)

Good evening Steve, so I understand there is not a translation of the New Testament in the contemporary language that Jesus spoke, Galilean Aramaic? Sad, but something to pray for...