American Catholics are skeptical about the Pope Francis

[Daniel Bodnar]

American Catholics are skeptical about the Pope Francis amid recently revealed Podesta's "anti-Church" emails.

"The response of His Holiness, as well as its absence, will show what he is to a greater extent: Catholic or "leftist", – believers say.

See the Canada Free Press article for details: http://canadafreepress.com/article/clinton-against-the-vatican.-will-the-holy-see-withstand

What do you think of this?
If you are Catholic faithful, do you share this sentiment?

 

[Rhamiel]

I think the Holy Father is trying to work with many types of people in order to promote the common good

in the past, the Church has taken a kind of "fortress mentality" where we have been cut off from the world
this has not helped the world and was selfish in many ways

while I might not always agree with his methods
I think he is honest and has a good heart

 

[Tomm]

I think the Holy Father is trying to work with many types of people in order to promote the common good

in the past, the Church has taken a kind of "fortress mentality" where we have been cut off from the world
this has not helped the world and was selfish in many ways

while I might not always agree with his methods
I think he is honest and has a good heart

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[Tomm]

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[Stabat Mater dolorosa]

He is a scandalous pope and I turned my back on him at the time of the dubia in September.

This isn't an isolated American concern not by a long shot.

 

[mea kulpa]

American Catholics are skeptical about the Pope Francis amid recently revealed Podesta's "anti-Church" emails.

"The response of His Holiness, as well as its absence, will show what he is to a greater extent: Catholic or "leftist", – believers say.

See the Canada Free Press article for details: Clinton against the Vatican. Will the Holy See withstand?
http://canadafreepress.com/article/clinton-against-the-vatican.-will-the-holy-see-withstand
What do you think of this?
If you are Catholic faithful, do you share this sentiment?

I am from the United Kingdom. The concerns are worldwide. I believe pope francis is a liberal and liberalism is condemned as heresy in our church. I therefore believe he is a heretic and as such can not be the true pope

I believe pope benedict xvi was put under pressure by the churches enemies from both within and from without. I believe his resignation was under durress and i can use pope benedicts own words and testimony of the archbishop who cares for him that he did not intend to resign the petrine office only the active governance of the church.

I believe cardinal electors plotted to elect pope francis as per their own admission this is something forbidden by church law and brings with it excommunication to all those engaged in the plot... i believe this invalidates the election of francis

I believe therefore that francis is an anti pope and benedict xvi remains the true pope

 

[pdudgeon]

I agree with the two posters above, and that it is irresponsible of francis not to respond when questioned about his writings. Further he has shown that he interprets scripture differently, and that he disregards the writings of the Church fathers. In doing these things willfully, he is not only confusing the faithful Catholics in the church, but he is also putting them in grave spiritual danger if they follow through on his ideas when it comes to marriage--specifically second marriages.

In an effort to clarify matters, 4+ leaders of the Church have sent him a questionnaire asking for clarification. They have been put off, and francis has so far refused to answer their questions.
Instead he has refered the matter to the bishops for their interpretation of his writings. This unfortunately places a heavy burden on them that they were not meant to bear, and also places them at odds with the leader of the Catholic Church; a most difficult place to be.
for asking the questions he is treating them as irritants and worse, is stripping them of their offices, isolating them, and turning to those clergy assigned underneath them to solve problems that they should be handling.

All of this is a changing situation with no resolution in sight. As such it runs the risk of unbalancing the Church and our faithful Catholics.

We really haven't seen anything like this since Luther nailed his list to the door of the Church.
That is one reason why--in order to avoid at all costs what happened to Luther and to the Catholic Church--the 4 created their questions and sent them to francis for his answer.

and so we wait, unsure of what will happen but knowing that this situation cannot continue for long.

 

[mea kulpa]

Well we know how bad it has been for Christianity whenever the church falls into error. Hopefully the cardinals can sort it out. I think it is important that we maintain our participation in the church so as to avoid if possilbe a full scale schism i think it is important to work within the church untill it is impossible to do so to defend the truth and to prevent a second reformation.

 

[pdudgeon]

Well we know how bad it has been for Christianity whenever the church falls into error. Hopefully the cardinals can sort it out. I think it is important that we maintain our participation in the church so as to avoid if possilbe a full scale schism i think it is important to work within the church untill it is impossible to do so to defend the truth and to prevent a second reformation.

absolutely we can be the Church within the Church, faithfully defending the truth.

 

[grasping the after wind]

Just as an outside observer I would say that many if not the majority of US Catholics are not all that on board with everything Popes say or preach. Not just in the case of this particular Pope but this has been the case for some time and over the course of many Popes' administrations . At least my conversations with various Catholics and ex Catholics lead me to conclude this.

 

[pdudgeon]

Just as an outside observer I would say that many if not the majority of US Catholics are not all that on board with everything Popes say or preach. Not just in the case of this particular Pope but this has been the case for some time and over the course of many Popes' administrations . At least my conversations with various Catholics and ex Catholics lead me to conclude this.

this is very true, but the disaffection (if it can be called that) is also due to the influence that the outside World has had on Christians in general during the last 67 years now.
That's a long slow time, but the erosion that has been afflicted upon society's morals and conscience because of it is now apparent.

 

[mea kulpa]

Just as an outside observer I would say that many if not the majority of US Catholics are not all that on board with everything Popes say or preach. Not just in the case of this particular Pope but this has been the case for some time and over the course of many Popes' administrations . At least my conversations with various Catholics and ex Catholics lead me to conclude this.

Again i think your correct but again this is across the world not just the usa. I think the pontificates of pope john paul ii and now pope benedict have been resisted by bishops and archbishops and lay catholics in while those who have resisted under these popes are now working to impliment cardinal bergoglios plans and those who wanted to go along with the pervious popes are now resisting francis. In other words there has been a silent growth of liberal catholics who are now uncloaking under francis and it is apparent that we conservitive catholics are so out numbered. It certainly has woken us up to the problems in the church that our visionaries saints and blesseds have been quite frankly warning us would come for 100s of years.

 

[pdudgeon]

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