Am I too cliche...

[Scottish Knight]

I had the attitude that I could help change this country for the better, but I give up. .

Oh, don't give up

 

[Im_A]

Secession? Hmmmmm.....

Well, I'm not trying to be some sort of asylum either. Just that it comes a time where life could be better and richer somewhere else, and for my future and the future of any sort of family I have......like America isn't bad now, but in like 20 years....idk. Could be really bad. Should be.

No offense man, but to me it sounds like crying wolf.

"like America isn't bad now, but in like 20 years...idk. Could be really bad. Should be."

I actually predict a long term shift to the left over the course of the years ahead to come. I predict that next election, the populace will vote right-wing. The primaries proved that to be true yet it happened under Clinton as well so we actually don't know...for sure. Then we will see the real face of the 'freshman' and no back-bone Democrats and then a resurgence for another 4 years will come back to the left. Maybe it will take some time more than that because boy king did get 8 years. Point being, as time progresses, we have become more 'liberal'. Heck even conservative views are based in classical liberal philosophy. I'll trust social evolution and how society has changed for the past several hundred years than worry about abandoning a country like ours.

 

[Blackguard_]

Point being, as time progresses, we have become more 'liberal'. Heck even conservative views are based in classical liberal philosophy.

Classical liberalism and modern American liberalism are two very different things.

In the days today's conservatives were liberals, today's liberals were Socialists or Progressives.

And that is the swing to the left we are seeing, not classical liberalism, but big government Progressivism.

You're probably right that will contine will for a while, as both parties, at least the people who get elected from them, are very much influenced by that ideology.

 

[Im_A]

Classical liberalism and modern American liberalism are two very different things.

Yep.

In the days today's conservatives were liberals, today's liberals were Socialists or Progressives.

And that is the swing to the left we are seeing, not classical liberalism, but big government Progressivism.

Yep, which it isn't something new either. This isn't a new trend for America to have happening and I predict it will continue to happen...even if it is a neccessity or because society is just changing that way as it has been for decades.

You're probably right that will contine will for a while, as both parties, at least the people who get elected from them, are very much influenced by that.

That will be my prediction for more than 2 decades to say the least. I just don't know when the Republicans will go to the right[tongue in cheek].