A new revival?

[imperfectchristian]

News | Revival touches Bay of the Holy Spirit in Daphne, Alabama | Shake The Nations | The Evangelistic Ministry of Nathan Morris

 

[Simon Peter]

The church of this new revival in Daphne, Alabama is led by John Kilpatrick, who was the pastor of the Brownsville, Florida church during the Brownsville revival in 1995.

I guess this is another Toronto, Brownsville, Lakeland type revival...


peace,
Simon

 

[Mathetes the kerux]

The church of this new revival in Daphne, Alabama is led by John Kilpatrick, who was the pastor of the Brownsville, Florida church during the Brownsville revival in 1995.

I guess this is another Toronto, Brownsville, Lakeland type revival...


peace,
Simon

Yup, same vein.

 

[hislegacy]

Keep watching,

 

[cyberlizard]

The church of this new revival in Daphne, Alabama is led by John Kilpatrick, who was the pastor of the Brownsville, Florida church during the Brownsville revival in 1995.

I guess this is another Toronto, Brownsville, Lakeland type revival...


peace,
Simon

when these revivals start attracting in thousands on unbelievers, I'll be convinced about them. All I see is jet setting believers on a signs and wonders sight seeing tour.


Steve

 

[AGTG]

Jesus warned us not to listen to people who said, "Lo, He is here or there." Why? Because that's not how the Kingdom of God works. No man needs to make a journey to have a relationship with God. Pilgrimages are for muslims and catholics, not Bible believing Christians.

You want to know what these guys call revival, take a look here. It should change your mind on the subject:

 

[AGTG]

when these revivals start attracting in thousands on unbelievers, I'll be convinced about them. All I see is jet setting believers on a signs and wonders sight seeing tour.


Steve

Pretty much. The people were sold on an "experience" as if faith in Christ isn't enough.

 

[Razare]

Faith that never produces a result is just dead faith. Works includes the miraculous.

But if I do them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father. - John 10:38

For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also. - James 2:26

Both are the same Greek word, and while the context of each use differs, if we research the works Christ did, his ministry gave to the poor, and likewise James saw miracles, so both the miraculous or giving are works, and both are the result of faith.

But really, you don't have to leave your living room to get a miracle, so I basically agree about going on tours to see them like it's a sideshow.

But then I'm blessed to go to a church were miracles are pretty common.

 

[Alithis]

folks who Don't go and do as the lord has said ...but sit around each sunday being prim and proper..
VS
folks who Don't go and do as the lord has said ...but run around giggling and being improper..

the only unity being a religious spirit causing people to bicker against one another .. the demons are not divided and win ..as long as neither part GO and Do the will of god ..
It is the corinthians church through and through . bickering squabbling babies ,still in their milk .

 

[geetrue]

Many are called, but few are chosen to come out of false revivals ...

 

[Jason Sanders]

So has anyone actually BEEN to this revival or are we all just judging it from a distance without actually, you know, seeing if our assumptions are right?

 

[faroukfarouk]

So has anyone actually BEEN to this revival or are we all just judging it from a distance without actually, you know, seeing if our assumptions are right?

Any revival needs to be demonstrably Scriptural, right? the Scriptures are the yardstick to measure them by.

 

[Jason Sanders]

Any revival needs to be demonstrably Scriptural, right? the Scriptures are the yardstick to measure them by.

Obviously, but how can you tell if it IS Scriptual if you don't actually go to it and see for yourself? Anyone can say anything they want about anything on the Internet- actually going to the darn thing is a lot more informative on what's actually happening there than second hand accounts from people who obviously don't like the people running the thing.

 

[faroukfarouk]

Obviously, but how can you tell if it IS Scriptual if you don't actually go to it and see for yourself? Anyone can say anything they want about anything on the Internet- actually going to the darn thing is a lot more informative on what's actually happening there than second hand accounts from people who obviously don't like the people running the thing.

The question is, Is the Word of God being added to?

 

[Jason Sanders]

The question is, Is the Word of God being added to?

I don't know- I haven't been there to see for myself.

 

[Jason Sanders]

<staff edit>You uh, you sure about that? Because there is no Scriptual basis for the gifts of the Spirit being a temporary thing.

 

[AGTG]

Obviously, but how can you tell if it IS Scriptual if you don't actually go to it and see for yourself? Anyone can say anything they want about anything on the Internet- actually going to the darn thing is a lot more informative on what's actually happening there than second hand accounts from people who obviously don't like the people running the thing.

Revivals are, in fact, not scriptural according to Jesus. Look what He says here. If people try to claim God is at work in a particular place, they're lying. That's the kind of thinking Muslims and Catholics have with their pilgrimages, but that is not the way God works and that won't change until He returns fully:

Matthew 24
23 Then if anyone says to you, 'Look, here is the Christ!' or 'There he is!' do not believe it. 24 For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.

25 See, I have told you beforehand. 26 So, if they say to you, 'Look, he is in the wilderness,' do not go out. If they say, 'Look, he is in the inner rooms,' do not believe it. 27 For as the lightning comes from the east and shines as far as the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.

28 Wherever the corpse is, there the vultures will gather.

Take a look at that last verse. Interesting what how He describes what these gatherings are like. These people in these revivals think they're so alive in Christ with these fleshly experiences, but the truth is it's really just dead and those who descend upon that kind of scheme aren't much different than vultures to a corpse.

 

[AGTG]

You uh, you sure about that? Because there is no Scriptual basis for the gifts of the Spirit being a temporary thing.

You're correct, they are still at work, but not like this signs and wonders movement works things. They manifest according to God's will, it's not like God gave you something to do whatever you want with it. God knows what man is like, and Father God is not facilitating the abuse of His Holy Spirit at the hands of men. The Holy Spirit always follows Father's will.

In other words, you cannot flick the Spiritual gifts on and off like a light. They happen according to God's will, for the benefit of the Body, and manifest when He sees fit.

 

[jiminpa]

Revivals are, in fact, not scriptural according to Jesus. Look what He says here. If people try to claim God is at work in a particular place, they're lying. That's the kind of thinking Muslims and Catholics have with their pilgrimages, but that is not the way God works and that won't change until He returns fully:

Matthew 24
23 Then if anyone says to you, 'Look, here is the Christ!' or 'There he is!' do not believe it. 24 For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.

25 See, I have told you beforehand. 26 So, if they say to you, 'Look, he is in the wilderness,' do not go out. If they say, 'Look, he is in the inner rooms,' do not believe it. 27 For as the lightning comes from the east and shines as far as the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.

28 Wherever the corpse is, there the vultures will gather.

Take a look at that last verse. Interesting what how He describes what these gatherings are like. These people in these revivals think they're so alive in Christ with these fleshly experiences, but the truth is it's really just dead and those who descend upon that kind of scheme aren't much different than vultures to a corpse.

As usual, those verses don't say what you say they say, unless you can cite credible sources that they are claiming Jesus has returned and is physically present, in body, at those revivals.

 

[jiminpa]

You're correct, they are still at work, but not like this signs and wonders movement works things. They manifest according to God's will, it's not like God gave you something to do whatever you want with it. God knows what man is like, and Father God is not facilitating the abuse of His Holy Spirit at the hands of men. The Holy Spirit always follows Father's will.

In other words, you cannot flick the Spiritual gifts on and off like a light. They happen according to God's will, for the benefit of the Body, and manifest when He sees fit.

So, do you believe that the gifts are fully active and to be desired?