A Baptist Children’s Home Rejected an Atheist’s Donation, So He Started a GoFundMe

[jazzflower92]

http://observer.com/2016/08/a-bapti...n-atheists-donation-so-he-started-a-gofundme/

I am just wondering why reject an atheist's offer. This is just reinforcing stereotypes about Christians being Pharisee like, and not caring about others. Besides isn't it good that an atheist would donate to a Christian charity.

 

[Oafman]

I am just wondering why reject an atheist's offer.

Because to do otherwise would be to accept that atheism is not synonymous with immorality.

The GoFundMe is now at $24k and counting. Donors are a mixture, some atheists, but plenty of Christians and even Baptists, commenting on how ridiculous it was to refuse this donation.

I doubt they'll refuse a second time; especially when it's tens of thousands of dollars.

 

[Cute Tink]

I'm not sure I would want to donate to such an organization, which puts their beliefs about atheists ahead of their own mission.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

In my opinion it was not smart to return the $100.00 donation. But if they change course now that it is over $24 thousand and accept it, what does that say about them? That they can be bought? Greed overcomes their values?

 

[Cute Tink]

In my opinion it was not smart to return the $100.00 donation. But if they change course now that it is over $24 thousand and accept it, what does that say about them? That they can be bought? Greed overcomes their values?

I wondering if they will justify it because some of the money has come from Christians and they can't tell it apart from the atheist money.

Or something like that.

 

[Kenny'sID]

Why did the Atheist insist on donating in the name of an Atheist organization? Why didn't they just give in the givers name, or need a non anonymous name at all for that matter? Looks like both the Atheist and the charity had agenda's.

Whatever the case, looks like the exposure ended up creating a good deal for the needy.

 

[jazzflower92]

Why did the Atheist insist on donating in the name of an Atheist organization? Why didn't they just give in the givers name, or need a non anonymous name at all for that matter? Looks like both the Atheist and the charity had agenda's.

Whatever the case, looks like the exposure ended up creating a good deal for the needy.

I say who cares if it was from an atheist organization, because as long as they are legit I think their money would be good. I don't think he had an agenda, and just used the organization he was apart of to reel in money to donate.

 

[cow451]

Makes me wonder if the donor's motivation was less than pure. Had it been pure, he would've been willing to change the name. I suspect he was looking to get a reaction that he could use to publicize his organization. Sounds like it worked.

 

[farout]

http://observer.com/2016/08/a-bapti...n-atheists-donation-so-he-started-a-gofundme/

I am just wondering why reject an atheist's offer. This is just reinforcing stereotypes about Christians being Pharisee like, and not caring about others. Besides isn't it good that an atheist would donate to a Christian charity.

Having been involved with a number of Christian Ministries, all take donations but limit donations from ungodly organizations or people. It would be unethical for a church to take a donation form a bar, strip club, Muslim, atheist, Beer manufacturer, any group or persons who stand directly against scripture.

However if a base ball club wants to take donations from anyone that's perfectly fine.

 

[farout]

I say who cares if it was from an atheist organization, because as long as they are legit I think their money would be good. I don't think he had an agenda, and just used the organization he was apart of to reel in money to donate.

See my note above, its all about ethical standards.

 

[Kenny'sID]

I say who cares if it was from an atheist organization, because as long as they are legit I think their money would be good. I don't think he had an agenda, and just used the organization he was apart of to reel in money to donate.

I don't care if it was from an Atheist org either, that wasn't my point. We just disagree on the Agenda thing....pretty strong evidence they had something to prove or something. If all they cared about was giving, why not just do it anonymously? And that's not to say, just giving didn't play a role in his intentions.

 

[Kenny'sID]

Having been involved with a number of Christian Ministries, all take donations but limit donations from ungodly organizations or people. It would be unethical for a church to take a donation form a bar, strip club, Muslim, atheist, Beer manufacturer, any group or persons who stand directly against scripture.

I don't necessarily disagree with the basis of what you are saying there but, Beer Manufacturer? Didn't Jesus manufacture wine?

 

[farout]

In my opinion it was not smart to return the $100.00 donation. But if they change course now that it is over $24 thousand and accept it, what does that say about them? That they can be bought? Greed overcomes their values?

In my opinion it was not smart to return the $100.00 donation. But if they change course now that it is over $24 thousand and accept it, what does that say about them? That they can be bought? Greed overcomes their values?

The point is they returned it. The ethical thing is if you know the source and they do not support Scriptural standards you can't take it. If the money came in with no way to know the source, "that is a horse of a different color".

 

[Hank77]

Having been involved with a number of Christian Ministries, all take donations but limit donations from ungodly organizations or people. It would be unethical for a church to take a donation form a bar, strip club, Muslim, atheist, Beer manufacturer, any group or persons who stand directly against scripture.

However if a base ball club wants to take donations from anyone that's perfectly fine.

The second temple in Jerusalem would not have been rebuilt if the returning Jews had turned down the help from Cyrus and Darius. AND they would have been going against the will of God for them.

God causes the rain to fall on the just and the unjust alike. He does this to bless the just.

 

[Oafman]

Why did the Atheist insist on donating in the name of an Atheist organization?

If I were an Oklahoman atheist, I would probably try to publicise every nice thing I did, in the hope that it might help to convince the majority of the local population that I'm not a baby-eating psychopath.

 

[Kenny'sID]

The second temple in Jerusalem would not have been rebuilt if the returning Jews had turned down the help for Cyrus and Darius. AND they would have been going against the will of God for them.

God causes the rain to fall on the just and the unjust alike. He does this to bless the just.

As I wrestled with if the subject here was right or wrong, I was wondering if there was a bible reference to cover it, and that may be it.

 

[Hank77]

If I were an Oklahoman atheist, I would probably try to publicise every nice thing I did, in the hope that it might help to convince the majority of the local population that I'm not a baby-eating psychopath.

LOL

It could be that he had researched different charitable organizations in that area and felt that this church was doing a good job at what he thought was important. By pointing out that he was not a Christian he could encourage them by showing that their work is appreciated by people outside the church.

 

[Hank77]

As I wrestled with if the subject here was right or wrong, I was wondering if there was a bible reference to cover it, and that may be it.

Some of the best jobs, where I was appreciated and paid the most money, were for non-Christians. That gave me a better opportunity to help others. Was God blessing me and others, yes He was.

 

[JackRT]

It would be unethical for a church to take a donation form a bar, strip club, Muslim, atheist, Beer manufacturer, any group or persons who stand directly against scripture.

William Booth who founded the Salvation Army was severely criticized for sending his people into saloons and music halls and worse to collect donations. His answer??? "I would take money from the devil to do God's work."

 

[Kenny'sID]

If I were an Oklahoman atheist, I would probably try to publicise every nice thing I did, in the hope that it might help to convince the majority of the local population that I'm not a baby-eating psychopath.

I don't think they think Atheists are Baby eating psychos, only that they are Atheists and that's all it takes. Right or wrong I at least get their side, they aren't fond of anyone who is against their God. I think it's mentioned in the Bible that Christians are supposed to dislike what God dislikes so, it's going to happen, like it or not,