I never said the Jews are innocent, I have expressed this before in other posts.
Also for the record, historically speaking the Jews did not take the Filistiniyyah land. Filistine is ethnically traced back to Jordan. Once the Brits and French were done dividing the territories it was only east and west Jordan divided amongst the Red and Dead Sea and was appropriately referred upon as aba'ra al-Bahr mayit.
If you knew something of Arabic history or even understood the language, ideology, politics yet alone the influence of al-Qawmi'ya al-Arabiya you would know this.
Also let me just drop the "ex-Muslim card" here
Let's stop speaking of the Palestinians themselves and put it this way. After the Jews were exiled, the Arabs moved in. I don't care if the Palestinians are Hashemites are not, they are still Arabs. Now, Israel has completely uprooted them.
As for Arabic history and language, I'm not particularly well versed in pan-Arab history. I do understand the language, though. I am also an ex-Muslim. Ex-Shia, actually.
There was no such region as Palestine in AD 70...it only became extant after the Bar Kokhba revolt was subdued in AD 135.
Oh. Hey. I thought you were going back to observer status as of yesterday? Or did you change your mind? Anyways, I never said that the land was known as Palestine in 70 A.D. We call it Palestine today, therefore the Jews were exiled from Palestine. Call it whatever you want. Canaan, perhaps? Transjordan? They're just words. You know exactly what region I was referring to so I don't know why you're making a big deal out of the terminology I use.
Despite statistic poles...the majority of Jewish people do not hate either the Arabs or the Christians...but they distrust both groups...the Arabs because they understand their agenda is to ultimately push them into the sea, and the Christian agenda that wants to make all Jews into Christians...either way many see it as a means of eradication.
Yeah? Well, I distrust Jews. And I absolutely unabatedly hate Israelis. Now, let me guess. That makes me an anti-Semite? Distrust of Christians and Arabs is okay but distrust of Jews is anti-Semitism. Standard Israeli rhetoric. Anyways, the Jews should distrust Christians and Arabs. Because if we (Christians and Arabs) had our way, we would absolutely destroy Israel. To be a Christian necessarily requires a level of hostility towards the murderers of God.
Not everything within Israeli society is hunkydory by any means...but they are a true liberal democracy, and many Arabs would rather live under imperfect Israeli laws than be subject to the vicissitudes of Islamic law.
That's like saying "not everything within Nazi Germany is hunkydory by any means...but they are a true liberal democracy, and many Europeans would rather live under imperfect Nazi laws than be subject to the vicissitudes of Jewish law." Israel is the new Nazi Germany, only worse.
Also it is not true that Israelis don't want equality...they are just wary of others that try to dictate to them how to run their own country....which is why they seek to define themselves as specifically a Jewish State.
Absolutely criminal. So Arab Israeli citizens get no say in how they run their country. That would be like saying something along the lines of "Also it is not true that Americans don't want equality...they are just wary of blacks and Mexicans that try to dictate to them how to run their own country." Plenty of blacks and Mexicans are citizens and therefore have a say in how to run the country. Likewise, many Arabs and many Christians are citizens of Israel and should have a say in how to run their country. Why don't you just come right out and admit that you're a racist anti-Christian and Islamophobe. I'll admit that I distrust Jews and hate Israelis. How about you admit your hatred as well?
And 99% of muslims want 100% of Israelis to be stripped of their citizenship...what is wrong with these vile people?
roll eyes now...
So? Israel is not a legitimate country. And besides, your statistics are off. More than 1% of Muslims are citizens of Israel. I highly doubt they want their own benefits removed. Stop making random nonsense up and stick to the facts and formulate some opinions. Don't falsify statistics.
"Love your enemies, do good to those who persecute you, that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even the pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect."
"But woe to you, Jews*, hypocrites! For you lock people out of the kingdom of heaven. For you do not go in yourselves, and when others are going in, you stop them. Woe to you, Jews, hypocrites! For you cross the sea and land to make a single convert, and you make the new convert twice as much a child of hell as yourselves.
Woe to you, blind guides, who say, 'Whoever swears by the sanctuary is bound by nothing, but whoever swears by the gold of the sanctuary is bound by the oath.' You blind fools! For which is greater, the gold or the sanctuary that has made the gold sacred? And you say, 'Whoever swears by the alter is bound by nothing, but whoever swears by the gift that is on the altar is bound by the oath.' How blind you are! For which is greater, the gift or the altar that makes the gift sacred? So whoever swears by the alter, swears by it and by everything on it; and whoever swears by the sanctuary, swears by it and by the one who dwells in it; and whoever swears by heaven, swears by the throne of God and by the one who is seated upon it.
Woe to you, Jews, hypocrites! For you tithe mint, dill, and cumin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faith. It is these you ought to have practiced without neglecting the others. You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel!
Woe to you, Jews, hypocrites! For you clean the outside of the cup and of the plate, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence. You blind Jew! First clean the inside of the cup, so that the outside may become clean.
Woe to you, Jews, hypocrites! For you are like whitewashed tombs, which on the outside look beautiful, but inside they are full of bones of the dead and all kinds of filth. So you also on the outside look righteous to others, but inside you are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness.
Woe to you, Jews, hypocrites! For you build the tombs of the prophets and decorate the graves of the righteous, and you say 'If we had lived in the days of our ancestors, we would have not taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.' Thus you testify against yourselves that you are descendants of those who murdered the prophets. Fill up, then, the measure of your ancestors. You snakes, you brood of vipers! How can you escape being sentenced to hell? Therefore I send you prophets, sages, and scribes, some of whom you will kill and crucify, and some you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town, so that upon you may come all the righteous blood shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Barachiah, whom you murdered between the sanctuary and the alter. Truly I tell you, all this will come upon this generation." (Matthew 23:13-36)
*Most translations render this as "scribes and Pharisees" which were what the Jews of the time were known as popularly.
That is what I have been saying too.
Nobody cares. I respectfully ask you to stay out of my threads. You seem to be either an Evangelical that supports Israel because they fear the Jews or are a Jew yourself. You say you're Orthodox so I will accept your word, but know that Jesus would never support the Genocidal State of Israel.