Marvin Knox
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Jesus Christ was fully man as well as fully God."His personally overcoming sin" A ? The whole debate is about MAN's free will leading to man's responsibility for his own sin. Maybe you are typing too fast.
This isn't the first time you've seemingly disputed that doctrine and it's implications.
I have read them all - thank you very much.Yet Calvin, Dort and WCF say the opposite. They say ALL things are predestined before the foundation of the world. Read it for yourself why don't you..
They all say that not only did God "ordain" or "predestine", as you prefer, everything that happens in His creation - they also say that sin proceeds only from the creature, that the Lord holds all people responsible for their personal choices, and that He does not, in His ordaining all that takes place, coerce or "do violence" to the will of the creature.
You clearly feel that you can pick and choose which statement in those sources you will and will not use in your argument.
You also clearly feel that you can pick and choose one side of what God says about these things and simply reject the other side as being irreconcilable.
Unlike you - the sources you have been using considered all of what God says on the matter to be true and based their overall teaching on that fact.
The vast majority of this "man made stuff" is the result of the thinking of theologians who have included all that God has said about these things --- quite unlike yourself.Join the club and give up all the man made stuff from the 16th century.
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