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6th March 2004, 04:45 PM
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Reps: 2,470 (power: 18) | | Originally Posted by drfeelgood Whether people are born with the attraction to the same sex or not is not only debatable, it's impertinent.
It is not debatable. People do not choose to whom they are attracted. Period. Living the homosexual lifestyle, acting on the attractions, IS a choice, and that can not be argued. Tres brillant. Really. "I know you guys are homosexual, but as long as you pretend you're not, everything will be fine."
Perhaps we should adopt this as a universal behavior-modification methodology? Just think of all the psychologists and criminologists we could do without.
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6th March 2004, 10:54 PM
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So if I don't like something that you do, and I can get some people to back me up that your behavior is repulsive in our view, should you be made to live a fake life, or should I learn to accept you and let you live?
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6th March 2004, 11:01 PM
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Reps: 26,771 (power: 43) | | Originally Posted by Philosoft It is not debatable. People do not choose to whom they are attracted. Period.
Prove it. You can't and goodness knows homosexuals have tried in their erroneous search for a ghey gene. Heh, they've even been investigated for faulty research. So far so good. :rolleyes: Tres brillant. Really. "I know you guys are homosexual, but as long as you pretend you're not, everything will be fine."
Where do you get this silliness from? I merely pointed out that acting on your attraction is a choice. You're not a puppet on a string. What separates you from the animal kingdom is something called free will and a conscience. Sooooo.. The animal analogy doesn't even hold true.
This whole homosexual argument is falling apart in a heck of a hurry in the face of actual facts.
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6th March 2004, 11:09 PM
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You can not prove that it is not, can you?
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6th March 2004, 11:35 PM
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Reps: 2,470 (power: 18) | | Originally Posted by drfeelgood Prove it. You can't and goodness knows homosexuals have tried in their erroneous search for a ghey gene. Heh, they've even been investigated for faulty research. So far so good. :rolleyes:
Who said anything about a "gay gene"? My point is they don't consciously choose what sex to be attracted to, however sexual attraction is achieved. Much like the rest of us in that regard. Where do you get this silliness from? I merely pointed out that acting on your attraction is a choice. You're not a puppet on a string. What separates you from the animal kingdom is something called free will and a conscience. Sooooo.. The animal analogy doesn't even hold true.
This whole homosexual argument is falling apart in a heck of a hurry in the face of actual facts.
What "facts" are we dealing with? A homosexual who doesn't have sex is still a homosexual. What does the sex act have to do with any of this?
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7th March 2004, 12:03 AM
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Reps: 26,771 (power: 43) | | Originally Posted by mhatten You can not prove that it is not, can you?
Nice try, but I'm not the one making the assertions. Philosoft is. This kind of mindgame, then, doesn't work. You have assumed the wrong target.
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Reps: 26,771 (power: 43) | | Originally Posted by Philosoft Who said anything about a "gay gene"? My point is they don't consciously choose what sex to be attracted to, however sexual attraction is achieved. Much like the rest of us in that regard.
That's where the ghey gene comes in. If you don't consciously choose what sex you are attracted to, then the only other assumption is to choose that it's subconscious. How is that achieved? Either by circumstances or a gene. Which side would you like to take?
Much like the rest of us? That's also debatable. How do we know that ALL humans aren't born with the attraction to the opposite sex? We don't, and faulty homosexual science certainly hasn't proven anything to the contrary.
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Reps: 26,771 (power: 43) | | Originally Posted by Philosoft What "facts" are we dealing with? A homosexual who doesn't have sex is still a homosexual.
Who cares? What's your point? Whatever it is, it certainly doesn't bear any relevance to my original point, so let's just drop it right here.
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7th March 2004, 12:38 AM
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Reps: 5,366,872,137,174,994 (power: 5,366,872,137,214) | | Originally Posted by drfeelgood Nice try, but I'm not the one making the assertions. Philosoft is. This kind of mindgame, then, doesn't work. You have assumed the wrong target.
I am not assuming anything. I am merely pointing out that like Philosoft you cannot state from provable knowledge/sorces that homosexuality is not from birth.
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Reps: 26,771 (power: 43) | | Originally Posted by mhatten I am not assuming anything. I am merely pointing out that like Philosoft you cannot state from provable knowledge/sorces that homosexuality is not from birth.
I don't have to. I'm not making the assertion that it is or isn't. Merely that it's debatable, a fact to which you can attest.
You chose the wrong target. The only assertion being made is by Philosoft, so logic would seem to dictate that the only one you can ask to prove their assertion, then, is him.
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