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3rd March 2004, 02:55 PM
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Hello. Not trying to start any fires or anything, but I do have a question for the science people. I am not a science person, so please keep it simple.
If we do have a young Earth, how do we explain the light from the far-off stars? Since there are many visible stars that are thousands if not millions of light years away, how can the Earth be less than 10, 000 years old?
Disclaimer: I am not questioning or out to debunk Genesis. I believe the account, no matter what. Whether they be six literal days or six eons, I do not care. I'd just like to hear a scientific explaination of a young Earth. |
3rd March 2004, 02:58 PM
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Reps: 239 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by twistedsketch Hello. Not trying to start any fires or anything, but I do have a question for the science people. I am not a science person, so please keep it simple.
If we do have a young Earth, how do we explain the light from the far-off stars? Since there are many visible stars that are thousands if not millions of light years away, how can the Earth be less than 10, 000 years old?
Disclaimer: I am not questioning or out to debunk Genesis. I believe the account, no matter what. Whether they be six literal days or six eons, I do not care. I'd just like to hear a scientific explaination of a young Earth.
There isn't an explanation that is credible. Next! |
3rd March 2004, 03:55 PM
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Reps: 382 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by twistedsketch Hello. Not trying to start any fires or anything, but I do have a question for the science people. I am not a science person, so please keep it simple.
If we do have a young Earth, how do we explain the light from the far-off stars? Since there are many visible stars that are thousands if not millions of light years away, how can the Earth be less than 10, 000 years old?
The most common explanation is that God created the light already 'en route' from the stars. Of course, this idea holds no water as it means God is making things appear other than they are, and thus effectively a liar. Disclaimer: I am not questioning or out to debunk Genesis. I believe the account, no matter what. Whether they be six literal days or six eons, I do not care. I'd just like to hear a scientific explaination of a young Earth.
There is no scientific explanation of a young earth that has not been falsified. Glad to hear you do not cling to a literal interpretation of genesis.
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3rd March 2004, 03:59 PM
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Captain Jack Sparrow is channeling the spirit of Ark Guy!
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3rd March 2004, 05:06 PM
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Reps: 9,498,085,865,820,920 (power: 9,498,085,865,830) | | Originally Posted by twistedsketch Hello. Not trying to start any fires or anything, but I do have a question for the science people. I am not a science person, so please keep it simple.
If we do have a young Earth, how do we explain the light from the far-off stars? Since there are many visible stars that are thousands if not millions of light years away, how can the Earth be less than 10, 000 years old?
Disclaimer: I am not questioning or out to debunk Genesis. I believe the account, no matter what. Whether they be six literal days or six eons, I do not care. I'd just like to hear a scientific explaination of a young Earth.
Stars? You mean the pinpricks in the curtain of the night? And what speak you of a "light year"? Don't you know that light measures distance and not time. Now excuse me while I step outside to watch the sun circle around the earth. |
3rd March 2004, 05:09 PM
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Reps: 382 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by ToddNotTodd Stars? You mean the pinpricks in the curtain of the night? And what speak you of a "light year"? Don't you know that light measures distance and not time. Now excuse me while I step outside to watch the sun circle around the earth. 
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3rd March 2004, 07:28 PM
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Reps: 12,682 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by PhantomLlama There is no scientific explanation of a young earth that has not been falsified.
A young earth has not been falsifed. It's just that there is a lot of evidence for a old earth in addition to the new earth. That is why you have a gap theory, the old except for a small remnant ended, before the new earth could begin. |
3rd March 2004, 07:34 PM
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Reps: 239 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by JohnR7 A young earth has not been falsifed. It's just that there is a lot of evidence for a old earth in addition to the new earth. That is why you have a gap theory, the old except for a small remnant ended, before the new earth could begin.
There is zero evidence for a young Earth. There is huge amounts of evidence for an old Earth.
And if by young you mean 6500 years or less - completely and utterly falsified. |
3rd March 2004, 07:39 PM
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There would also be concepts in quantum fields, "bending" of light, supergravity, influence of black holes - all of which may have played a part in getting the light from there to here. http://arwensoracle.tripod.com/theprophetcrucible/ page, "Creation Evidence" deals with some of these astronomical issues. |
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Reps: 45,671 (power: 65) | | Originally Posted by Starcrystal Besides the theory that God created the light in route to appear instantaneously, there is the theory of light speeds gradual decrease since its initial measurements - showing that is could have been near infinite speeds if it has continued the sine curve back to approx 6,040 + or - yrs ago.
There would also be concepts in quantum fields, "bending" of light, supergravity, influence of black holes - all of which may have played a part in getting the light from there to here. http://arwensoracle.tripod.com/theprophetcrucible/ page, "Creation Evidence" deals with some of these astronomical issues.
Ah, a feeble attempt to manipulate the fundamental laws of the universe to prove dogma. Sorry, it doesn't work that way.
YEC claim that light was created en route - http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CE/CE411.html
YEC claim that light was faster in the past - http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CE/CE411_1.html
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