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Originally Posted by Blessed75
Um, so quoting scripture is gonna fix it? I was thinking more along the lines of getting off our duffs and doing something about it.....but you can quote the scriptures if you think it will do any good.
thank you. sometimes the "drive-by scripture quoting" gets a bit tiresome, plus adds little to the discussion. at least add some discussion around the scriptures, i think that would be helpful for those of us who see 340928302 lines of scripture and just scroll right through it.
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Originally Posted by theeyesoftammyfaye
thank you. sometimes the "drive-by scripture quoting" gets a bit tiresome, plus adds little to the discussion. at least add some discussion around the scriptures, i think that would be helpful for those of us who see 340928302 lines of scripture and just scroll right through it.
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Originally Posted by Paula
People worldwide clamor for freedom in the privacy of their homes carried beyond what God ordains. In our own nation, it is alarming to see how many claim to be Christians, but yet do not want laws against acceptable, common decency. They also prefer that the government not intrude into their personal lives. This is what happens tohearts that turn to personal pleasure and selfishness:

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INCREASING PROBLEM:
Swedes Have More and More Animal Sex

Av Øyvind Ludt og Carin Pettersson 26.01.04 12:24
Animal sex is not illegal in Sweden, and every year between 200 and 300 pets are injured because of sexual assaults.


The estimate was presented by Svenska Veterinärforbundet, the Swedish veterinary organization, and it is now trying to make the authorities and the public more aware of animals’ suffering. The organization claim the problem has increased during the last couple of years, even if most people are unaware of it.

“We have seen an increase since 1999 when child pornography became illegal,” said Johan Beck-Friis. “It appears, in other words, as there are some people who have replaced children with animals. In both circumstances, it is sex with defenceless individuals.”

The injuries inflicted on animals after sexual assaults are of the same character of those children get. Beck-Friis said that the most common injuries are wounds on the sex organs and blisters.

Animal porn
The fact that animal sex is becoming an increasing problem can be indicated by the mere fact that there is an increasing selection of animal porn at video rentals and there an increasingly number of websites with animal pornography is surfacing.

No one knows for sure how many animals that are abused, but a British study from 2001 indicates that every 20th dog or cat that receives treatment at veterinaries, the injuries are not a result of a direct accident, but the animal has been inflicted the injury as a result of a sexual assault.

According to the Swedish paper Expressen, if the same estimate can be used in Sweden that will indicate that 200 to 300 dogs and cats every year are injured as a result of sexual assaults.

Not illegal
In contrast with most other countries, animal sex is not illegal in Sweden. It was decriminalized in 1944 in connection with the decriminalization of homosexual sex.

http://pub.tv2.no/nettavisen/english/article177749.ece
This calls for that phrase...dare I say it..... Ah well, here goes...'Slippery slope.'

I heard the latest in thing for high school girls is Lesbianism. Could this be the cool thing next year???

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Originally Posted by theeyesoftammyfaye
thank you. sometimes the "drive-by scripture quoting" gets a bit tiresome, plus adds little to the discussion. at least add some discussion around the scriptures, i think that would be helpful for those of us who see 340928302 lines of scripture and just scroll right through it.
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Wow. Only 300 injuries a year. I'd have expected more. Sounds like they are doing pretty good. I wonder how many our Christian nation has each year? Anyone?

I must admit, this made me laugh. The animal prostitutes post had me rolling.

To answer the question of where we draw the line, yes, for me it is at consent. I don't care if 25 people want to marry each other. If they are all in, it is none of my business. If they aren't hurting anyone, it isn't my business.

To avoid conflict, I have decided to debate this with myself. Here goes...

What is worse, a Christian couple that abuses their children, or a polygamus family that has nothing but love for one another? Abusive family.

Do I beleive there are many people who want to marry multiple partners? No.

Do I think this OP has anything of substance to offer other than to point out that there are screwed-up people in the world who like to victimize other living things? No.

Have such people always existed? Yes.

Are there more now than before? I seriously doubt it.

Do I think there are things that happen in the privacy of Paula's bedroom that might make me sick? Quite possibly.

Is it my business? No

Well, you are a hell-bound sin loving heretic, then. No you are a bigoted hate-filled everything-o-phobe.

That's it. I'm reporting you. Well, I'm putting you on IGNORE! Will someone please tell me that I have put myself on IGNORE...
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Originally Posted by Firscherscherling
Wow. Only 300 injuries a year. I'd have expected more. Sounds like they are doing pretty good. I wonder how many our Christian nation has each year? Anyone?

I must admit, this made me laugh. The animal prostitutes post had me rolling.

To answer the question of where we draw the line, yes, for me it is at consent. I don't care if 25 people want to marry each other. If they are all in, it is none of my business. If they aren't hurting anyone, it isn't my business.

To avoid conflict, I have decided to debate this with myself. Here goes...

What is worse, a Christian couple that abuses their children, or a polygamus family that has nothing but love for one another? Abusive family.

Do I beleive there are many people who want to marry multiple partners? No.

Do I think this OP has anything of substance to offer other than to point out that there are screwed-up people in the world who like to victimize other living things? No.

Have such people always existed? Yes.

Are there more now than before? I seriously doubt it.

Do I think there are things that happen in the privacy of Paula's bedroom that might make me sick? Quite possibly.

Is it my business? No

Well, you are a hell-bound sin loving heretic, then. No you are a bigoted hate-filled everything-o-phobe.

That's it. I'm reporting you. Well, I'm putting you on IGNORE! Will someone please tell me that I have put myself on IGNORE...
That is one of the funniest posts I ahve read in a while...LOL

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That is one of the funniest posts I ahve read in a while...LOL

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I agree, tears are streamin' down my face from laughing so hard.........oh, I'm soooo bad
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Originally Posted by Paula
The phrase "two consenting adults" seems to be the pivotal point of these debates and usually leads to broader questions like: Why stop at two? Why not two or more? Does the government have the right to tell us how many people ought to love each other at any one given time? Why does the government allow serial polygamy, but not group polygamy? Isn't this also a restriction of personal freedom?

My question: Where should we draw the line and why?

They can't draw a line! They will call it a slippery slope argument and avoid the issue! Saying it's not an issue and then start to call you names or changing the subject, anything to avoid it.

However, some knew where this was heading all along!!!!


This Is Where 'Sexual Orientation' Laws Lead Us, Critic Says

On Tuesday, Chicago Mayor Richard Daley said he would have "no problem" with the Cook County clerk issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples.

The clerk, David Orr, is quoted as saying that he is discussing the matter with homosexual activists - "Whether or not, here in Cook County, we should be considering a San Francisco or other kind of protest."

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LaBarbera noted that Orr and Chicago Alderman Tom Tunney, a homosexual, urged passage of a statewide "sexual orientation" measure as part of their strategy toward legalizing "gay marriage."

"Homosexual advocates know that before they can redefine marriage in the courts, they need a pro-gay 'nondiscrimination' law on the books," he said.

"They're now admitting what we always knew: 'sexual orientation' laws are just the beginning of the slippery slope toward 'gay marriage.'

http://www.cnsnews.com//ViewNation.a...20040220a.html


I guess it's not a fallacy nor a slippery slope anymore....

The obvious question of what comes next is not a slippery slope, regardless of what Homosexual Activists or their Supporters say anymore....
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