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1st September 2004, 06:12 PM
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1st September 2004, 06:14 PM
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Reps: 84,929,301,057,186,064 (power: 84,929,301,057,204) | | Originally Posted by brightlights hiv, what a frightening disease
Yes it is, but at least it is controllable through sex education. But that is a discussion for another day.
On the topic of ERV's, would you agree that these viral insertions are scietific evidence that support common ancestory between chimps/gorillas and humans? If not, why? I am not going to tear you apart, but I may be able to answer any further questions you may have. I save my daggers for John  . |
1st September 2004, 06:37 PM
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1st September 2004, 06:51 PM
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Reps: 84,929,301,057,186,064 (power: 84,929,301,057,204) | | Originally Posted by brightlights well it certainly is thought out in its reasoning, but i cannot turn away from my beliefs so easily.
I wasn't actually aksing you to change your belief in God. What I was asking was if common ancestory was supported by the placement of ERV's in chimp and human genomes. We often hear creationists claim that there is NO scientific evidence supporting evolution. ERV's are a counterclaim that there is indeed evidence that supports evolution. wor[l]dly reasoning and sciences change but when i am close to god i feel so amazing. i dont want to compromise that with what seems reasonable at the time, because as you can tell times and reason certainly change. i believe in creation, but i see the validity of theistic evolution.
There are christian scientists that work in the field of evolution and have no problem with it. Evolution makes no statement on the validity of God. However, it does bring in to question some people's interpretation of Genesis. But shouldn't man's interpretation of the Bible match up with what is in God's Creation? Most christians believe that science is able to divine HOW God created and while the Bible tells us WHY God created us. Of course, faith and belief are left to each individual person so don't take my words as commandments, only as advice.  |
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Reps: 637 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by brightlights well i certainly will take your words as advice and i thank you, but for now i want to focus on my relationship with god and not get caught up in the creation/evolution debate. sometimes (and i'm not attacking you or anyone specific) people get so caught up on minor interpretations that they lose sight of the message.
Most theistic evolutionists here seem to keep the message in clear sight. Since the bible is not a book of science, I would never use its shortcomings in that area as an argument FOR atheism.
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Reps: 9,696,570 (power: 9,706) | | Originally Posted by brightlights well i certainly will take your words as advice and i thank you, but for now i want to focus on my relationship with god and not get caught up in the creation/evolution debate.
By all means, if you feel that is where you need to concentrate your efforts than go for it, just remember something... God created the universe, he also created humans with minds and the ability to think, is it reasonable to assume that God wants you to examine the world around you and draw conclusions from his creation itself? Perhaps it is her way of telling us that we may not always interpert the Bible correctly. sometimes (and i'm not attacking you or anyone specific) people get so caught up on minor interpretations that they lose sight of the message.
I understand what you mean. Think of it this way though... sometimes people get so caught up with the words in the Bible(literal interpertation), that they miss the bigger picture, the lesson that it is trying to teach.
Even I, as an Atheist acknowledge that the Bible has many good stories that teach very important lessons, and that it is an excellent discussion about man's relationship with other people and the collective questions about the struggle of existance. |
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Reps: 12,682 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Mistermystery I will accept creationism if there's enough evidence for it. So far it's got nothing.
I would not say nothing, your here, I am here. How much more evidence do you need? |
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