Following on from the recent gay marriages, I'm just interested to see what the Christian members here think of gay couples in general? Are there any liberals who think it is OK?
I'm undecided, as a few of my friends are this way inclined, and have never been able to be attracted to the same sex.. exhibiting different behaviour from thier peers even when they were very small. It has been proved that attraction to same sex can be caused by low levels of the sex hormone Testosterone in the blood for men, and high levels of this for women, what is the Christian opinion on this?
The only place where I draw the line is when couples adopt or have babies, because I think every child deserves to have a normal family and not get ridiculed at school. Thoughts on this?
I knew some kids who were raised by their older sister and her girlfriend. They came out fine. I'd rather see kids in an unusual, but loving, family than in a more normal, but abusive, one. Sometimes, those are the choices.
I don't see what business of mine other peoples' relationships are; I guess that means I "think it's OK".
I think your claim about what's been "proved" about sexual attraction is, by the way, 100% unmitigated nonsense; in particular, gay men often have very high testosterone levels. It's more complicated than that. If it were just hormones, hormone treatments would have worked, and we would have stopped having this debate in the 50s.
I don't really have, or need, an opinion on whether or not other people are permitted to live the lives they're living, as long as they aren't harming me. The impression I've gotten is that, for practical purposes, relationships are relationships. I'm a lot less worried about the long-term health of a gay guy who wants to find a partner and commit to a long-term relationship than I am about promiscuous straights.
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Nonsense! If you put a little thought tio your OPINIONS you would see understand for a society culture to be healthy & prosperous it MUST have standards which promote said society culture. Sodomy is not a virtue nor is its tolerance; medically speaking it is a death sentence, have you not heard of what one doctor termed in an AMA artice few years ago "gay bowel syndrome" which highlighted all the harmful & pandemic problems homosexuals have? look it up it is frightfuL!
What interests me is that back when I was in High School it was *trendy* to be a lesbian! I'm not kidding!
Personally, I have a lot of sympathy on the matter because some people are really only attracted to members of the same sex. A few of my closest friends are gay and I have no judgement on them, especially as they are so happy. But although I don't want to judge people, I just wanted to hear what the other opinions were here.
I agree that in some circumstances it is far better for an orphaned kid to be raised by a gay couple, especially one known to them. But the concept of gay couples, particularily men, adopting babies that would have otherwise gone to a more conventional couple, disturbs me and even my Atheist friends, because apart from lacking both male and female role models, anyone who grows up in that kind of environment will not only get tormented at school, but might possibly resent their adopted parents for bringing them into such a different home. I just brought that up because it is a topic that is often in the news. Thoughts?
My thought is that the same argument could be made just as strongly, and perhaps more so, against interracial couples.
Kids raised by gay parents don't lack for role models; the entire world is full of role models.
BTW, the "trendy to be a lesbian" thing has very little to do with any kind of actual sexual orientation, and a lot to do with teenagers being randy little creatures.
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Seebs, I'm not trying to contradict you in any way, but it is in my opinion that ideally, a child should have both a father and mother, because even if they are divorced, they have solid, consisitent role models of each sex who stay with them through their entire childhood. I know gay couples have friends of other sexes and there are 3 billion members of each sex to look up to in the world, but nothing beats having someone who is your real parent, who can answer all your questions and be there from day to day, or at least available on the phone to answer all those silly questions about growing up from both a male and female perspective.
I lost my mom when I was really young, about 11, and I found it very hard to get through adolescence without someone who could advise me on all the things that happen to a girl growing up - sure I had friends and family friends but thats just not the same as someone who is always there and you don't need to be shy of asking personal questions to. I also couldn't have got by without my dad there to give me advice on other things, that only a guy could help with.
I'm really interested to hear your argument on interracial couples as over here that is a very accepted thing, blacks in particular are a valued part of our middle classes, and especially here in the south there are little or few cultural differences. At least nowhere near the number of differences a same sex couple has against a *normal* couple.
Anway, don't take this the wrong way, these things are just my opinion and I'm really interested to hear anyone elses, after all noone can be *right* in matters such as these. GB!
Well, here in America many minority children, handicapped children, and other "Less Desirables" are not adopted. They often get shuffled in the foster family system and bounce from home to home over the years. Gays as a group adopt more of these "Undesirables" then heterosexual couples. Probably because they are more understanding of what it is like to be a victim od descrimination.
What type of couples are we talking about? Short-term/"fling" or Long-term/Life Partners?
For the whole 'dating' couple, not sure if they are long term or not, It would really depend on HOW they are a couple. If they are active, I'd have to be against the sex part, not the actual couple. But if they aren't active, hey, no problem.
For Long-term couples, having been together for 2+ years, I'd say that I'm cool with that and anything they do. Staying together for 2+ years shows ME atleast that they are serious about eachother, and are probably happier than alot of other people I know.
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I guess, that is a very good point about the 'Undesirables', because when I was typing my post I had newborn babies, and young kids in mind - in particular recent articles in the news here about gay couples adopting healthy babies online over the internet. But then again, you can't run a law that says it's only OK for gay couples to adopt kids that noone else would want. It's a tough argument....
Following on from the recent gay marriages, I'm just interested to see what the Christian members here think of gay couples in general? Are there any liberals who think it is OK?
I'm undecided, as a few of my friends are this way inclined, and have never been able to be attracted to the same sex.. exhibiting different behaviour from thier peers even when they were very small. It has been proved that attraction to same sex can be caused by low levels of the sex hormone Testosterone in the blood for men, and high levels of this for women, what is the Christian opinion on this?
The only place where I draw the line is when couples adopt or have babies, because I think every child deserves to have a normal family and not get ridiculed at school. Thoughts on this?
Just interested to read a few opinions! GB!
Well, if Christians didn't spread such hatred about Gays, they wouldn't be ridiculed at school, would they? I mean, once they are just part of the ordinary community and adults aren't calling them names and harrassing them, it's kind of unlikely that the kids will, since hatred is learned at home after all.
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