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20th February 2004, 05:52 PM
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Reps: 154 (power: 0) | | | Please give scientific evidence for 6-day literal Creation. I keep hearing about the evidences for 6-day special creation, or creationism as it is also called. It is also called Creation Science. So with that name:
I am asking you to list all scientific evidence which would lead us to the conclusion that God Created Via this method.
Existence of creatures and all the natural world is not evidence, since alternate methods of creating these exist.
The interpretation of Genesis is not evidence, as that is what the evidence is being provided for.
Attempts to disprove evolution are not evidence. The evidence must stand alone.
This evidence must be scientific, as in we must be able to test it, and in the case of all scientific theories, we should be able to make predictions from it.
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20th February 2004, 05:58 PM
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20th February 2004, 05:59 PM
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Reps: 406,903,328,345,094,208 (power: 406,903,328,345,118) | | Originally Posted by pureone I keep hearing about the evidences for 6-day special creation, or creationism as it is also called. It is also called Creation Science. So with that name:
I am asking you to list all scientific evidence which would lead us to the conclusion that God Created Via this method.
Not a good question. For every scientific theory there is always "evidence for". What matters is the evidence against.
What you will get is the old PRATT list.
Or I will refer you to the work of Werner, Buckland, and some of the other scientists who were creationists in the period 1790-1830! And then you can spend your time with evidence that led them to conclude God created via that method!
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20th February 2004, 06:01 PM
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Reps: 406,903,328,345,094,208 (power: 406,903,328,345,118) | | Originally Posted by Loudmouth And on top of the above, if a creationist could also supply what scientific data could potentially falsify the 6 day creation. Other theories offer the same potential falsifications, I see no reason why creation "theory" couldn't as well.
Creationism did offer potential falsifications. In fact, it was falsified.
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20th February 2004, 06:37 PM
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Reps: 10 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by lucaspa Creationism did offer potential falsifications. In fact, it was falsified.
Really?
I find that impossible since Science can niether prove nor disprove creation
But I would love to see this "proof" that has falsified creation. | 
20th February 2004, 06:41 PM
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Reps: 19,183,710,574,649,584 (power: 19,183,710,574,664) | | Originally Posted by SacredLight Really?
I find that impossible since Science can niether prove nor disprove creation
But I would love to see this "proof" that has falsified creation.
Creation has not been falsified but Young Earth Creationism has been falsified. A central tentant of YEC is the worldwide flood which has been falsified for about 150 years and many times over. http://www.christianforums.com/t95378
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20th February 2004, 06:43 PM
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Thus you are right, we can not falsify creation, but we can and have falsified creationism. Originally Posted by SacredLight Really?
I find that impossible since Science can niether prove nor disprove creation
But I would love to see this "proof" that has falsified creation.
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20th February 2004, 10:11 PM
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20th February 2004, 10:36 PM
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I wait for the day when we can do a CTRL+C -> CTRL+V of knowledge from one person to another. Jeeze.
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