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19th February 2004, 11:39 PM
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Creationists (particularly of the Young Earth variety) would have us believe that large chunks of scientific discovery from the past couple hundred years relating to biology, physics, geology, etc, are completely and utterly wrong. The explanations for this range from simple scientific incompetence to outright conspiracy.
So my question to creationists is, if science can be wrong about all those things, why couldn't they be wrong about the shape of the Earth? Maybe it really is flat. After all, none of us has ever shot out into space and orbited the Earth a few times to check. And those NASA guys? All part of the conspiracy...
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19th February 2004, 11:53 PM
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19th February 2004, 11:54 PM
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19th February 2004, 11:56 PM
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Reps: 9,311,669,886,675,212 (power: 9,311,669,886,693) | | Originally Posted by Will13 Shouldn't this type of thing be locked.....What are you getting at? We all know the Earth isn't flat....We've flown AROUND it plenty of times......And we've seen it's shadow on eclipses.
But what if we're wrong? Or being duped? Creationists would have us believe the same about the age of the Earth or evolution, so why not the shape of the Earth?
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19th February 2004, 11:57 PM
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19th February 2004, 11:58 PM
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19th February 2004, 11:59 PM
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20th February 2004, 12:01 AM
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Reps: 9,311,669,886,675,212 (power: 9,311,669,886,693) | | Originally Posted by Will13 Once again......put the crack down
Wait, weren't you the guy who was advocating having an open mind about ideas? Apparently you've already made up your mind about this.
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20th February 2004, 12:08 AM
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Reps: 77 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Pete Harcoff Wait, weren't you the guy who was advocating having an open mind about ideas? Apparently you've already made up your mind about this.
This isn't even a theory......Although evolution has plenty of proof, it is still a theory b/c it can't be proven. There isn't any room for doubt about whether or not the Earth is round.
And I although I saw the point you were TRYING to make (as Bushido would like to think I missed, even though it was purposely overstepped to help prevent what I think is about to happen anway), your point is moot b/c we know w/o a shadow of a doubt that the earth is indeed round. That is a PROVEN FACT. Evolution, although heavily favored by proof, is NOT A PROVEN FACT. |
20th February 2004, 12:10 AM
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Reps: 9,311,669,886,675,212 (power: 9,311,669,886,693) | | Originally Posted by Will13 This isn't even a theory......Although evolution has plenty of proof, it is still a theory b/c it can't be proven. There isn't any room for doubt about whether or not the Earth is round.
And I although I saw the point you were TRYING to make (as Bushido would like to think I missed, even though it was purposely overstepped to help prevent what I think is about to happen anway), your point is moot b/c we know w/o a shadow of a doubt that the earth is indeed round. That is a PROVEN FACT. Evolution, although heavily favored by proof, is NOT A PROVEN FACT.
Have you ever orbited the Earth? Are you sure it's a proven fact? Or do you just take it on faith that it's a proven fact?
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