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20th February 2004, 01:06 AM
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Reps: 77 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Skillz151 This is getting ridiculous. We can see that the Earth is round because we all know it rotates on its axis hence day and night so on and so fourth. Maybe it is infact flat. but Our 3D minds concept it as being round. So going by my limited human 3d mind I would say the earth is round.
Comparing the earth as being flat to the age of the Earth is ridiculous.
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20th February 2004, 01:08 AM
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Reps: 9,311,669,886,675,212 (power: 9,311,669,886,693) | | Originally Posted by Skillz151 Have I seen earth from space. No. In actually space no.. but I have seen nasa video's of the earth and I can see the curvature.
How do you know those videos are accurate? Maybe there was distortion from the camera lens making it look curved when it really wasn't. And didn't I mention the Day n Night. The earth must rotate wor this to happen.
Maybe it does rotate. That doesn't mean it isn't flat (a flat disc could rotate and produce the same effect). Or maybe the Sun goes around the Earth. That's another explanation (it makes more sense to me that the idea of a "round" Earth). Qualified scientist pshsh who's to say they're qualified? You Lol
And who's to say these people pushing this "round Earth" idea are any more qualified?
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20th February 2004, 01:11 AM
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20th February 2004, 01:12 AM
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Reps: 9,498,085,865,820,920 (power: 9,498,085,865,830) | | Originally Posted by Skillz151 This is getting ridiculous. We can see that the Earth is round because we all know it rotates on its axis hence day and night so on and so fourth. Maybe it is infact flat. but Our 3D minds concept it as being round. So going by my limited human 3d mind I would say the earth is round.
Comparing the earth as being flat to the age of the Earth is ridiculous.
The Earth doesn't rotate on any axis. Thats a lie from satan. It clearly states in scripture that Joshua commanded the sun not to MOVE. That means that the sun moves AROUND the Earth. The Earth is perfectly motionless. |
20th February 2004, 04:46 AM
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This is all quite sad...
The earth is round, and this is a scientificly prooven fact. It is science, becasue anyone, regardless of their bias, can go out and do the experiments themselves.
Experiment #1) Go to the ocean. Watch any ship that is leaving port, and atch as it sails away. As it gets smaller and smaller you will notice that it does not just get smaller and small, but is also seems to sink into the ocean. This is becasue of the earths curvature, and not flat. On a flat earth, the ship would continue to get smaller and smaller untill it was so far away that you could no longer see it. This is not the case. When a ship is returning, the first thing you will see is the sail, and then the mast, ect. The ship will apear to "rise" up out of the ocean. But don't take my word for it, go and do it yourself.
Expirement #2) Go outside at night and look at the moon. The shadow over the moon is going to always be round, no matter what (unless it is full, in which case there will be no shadow). The only object that alasy casts a round shadow is a sphere. If the earth were flat, even if it were round and flat, it would not always cast a round shadow. But don't take my word for it, go out and test it yourself.
I really hope that this is merely me not picking up on sarcasm here, and that you do not actually believe that the earth is flat.
As a side note (and more proberly belongs in another area), evolution is not actually a theory anymore. It is now part of the scientific fact and backround knowledge within the scientific community. This is not to say that scientists do not differ in their opinions about how the it occurs, but it is fact. It is just that like most relave theoies, it is continued to be called a theory becasue of it's earlier denomination. Do not let this fool you. The theory of evolution is no more of a threory than Quantim Mechanics and the theory of Relativity or the Theory of Gravity.  |
20th February 2004, 04:52 AM
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Reps: 16,712 (power: 43) | | Originally Posted by Prometheus_ash Experiment #1) Go to the ocean. Watch any ship that is leaving port, and atch as it sails away. As it gets smaller and smaller you will notice that it does not just get smaller and small, but is also seems to sink into the ocean. This is becasue of the earths curvature, and not flat. On a flat earth, the ship would continue to get smaller and smaller untill it was so far away that you could no longer see it. This is not the case. When a ship is returning, the first thing you will see is the sail, and then the mast, ect. The ship will apear to "rise" up out of the ocean. But don't take my word for it, go and do it yourself.
no no, it could just be the light bending funny... ever see a mirage? it's just like that. Expirement #2) Go outside at night and look at the moon. The shadow over the moon is going to always be round, no matter what (unless it is full, in which case there will be no shadow). The only object that alasy casts a round shadow is a sphere. If the earth were flat, even if it were round and flat, it would not always cast a round shadow. But don't take my word for it, go out and test it yourself.
the shadow over the moon is caused because the moon is a sphere, it has nothing to do with the flatness of the earth.
it was sarcasm by the way, as are my answers.
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20th February 2004, 05:37 AM
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Reps: 16,712 (power: 43) | | | I think the reason that creationists are happy to argue that the earth is round, but hate things about age, is that "the earth is round" argument is a nice simple one which can be supported by evidence such as "looking at the earth and seeing that it is not flat". When we come to something like say, radio isotope dating, ,then suddenly it becomes a heck of alot more complicated. This does not make the latter false though, but the creationists can just glaze over and ignore concepts that they do not understand, such as black body spectra, emission lines, spectroscopy, lamb shift, supernova remnants, the fine structure constant and so on, which demonstrate the accuracy of dating methods just as well as looking at the earth demonstrates that it is round. Hence it allows them to say really stupid things like "radiaoactive decay rates accelerated" without ever having to confront the implications of this, since they have no idea what the implications actually are.
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20th February 2004, 06:37 AM
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20th February 2004, 06:44 AM
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Reps: 16,712 (power: 43) | | Originally Posted by pcwilkins So what if it is flat? Doesn't matter!
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20th February 2004, 08:31 AM
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I find Skillz151's posts especially ironic... 
I must confess to curiousity though-seeing as I'm definitely not an expert on astronomy; Could a planet be flat (or relatively)? Does gravity necessarily have to shape a planet somewhat spherically?
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