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28th September 2004, 07:37 AM
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Reps: 261 (power: 0) | | Matthew 21:43 Therefore I tell you, the kingdom of GOD will be taken away from you Jesus said: Matthew 21:43 Therefore I tell you, the kingdom of GOD will be taken away from you and given to a nation producing fruits from it.Which nation is that may I ask? Peace | 
28th September 2004, 07:53 AM
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Reps: 261 (power: 0) | | | Matthew 21:43. (Jesus was talking to the pharisees and he told them) Therefore I tell you, the kingdom of GOD will be taken away from you and given to a nation producing fruits from it. My question is why and who is that nation GOD has given his kingdom to? | 
28th September 2004, 08:40 AM
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Reps: 631 (power: 0) | | | "nation" "nations" or "people" "peoples" which are a same word in greek has always meant gentiles, that is non-jews, which has been fulfilled, when faith in God spread to Rome, Greece and everywhere else.
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28th September 2004, 08:42 AM
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28th September 2004, 08:45 AM
| | Senior Member 46  | | Join Date: 10th September 2004 Location: In god's earth
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Reps: 261 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Petr "nation" "nations" or "people" "peoples" which are a same word in greek has always meant gentiles, that is non-jews, which has been fulfilled, when faith in God spread to Rome, Greece and everywhere else. So you are saying that god Gave the Kingdom to the christians then? | 
28th September 2004, 08:52 AM
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Reps: 631 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by caller_to_truth So you are saying that god Gave the Kingdom to the christians then?
God gives it to all that manifest the Christ spirit within themselves. The Jews(now i'm talking about the majority of jews, the pharisees & saducees) obviously weren't capable of it at the time.
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28th September 2004, 08:55 AM
| | Senior Member 46  | | Join Date: 10th September 2004 Location: In god's earth
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Reps: 261 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Petr God gives it to all that manifest the Christ spirit within themselves. The Jews(now i'm talking about the majority of jews, the pharisees & saducees) obviously weren't capable of it at the time. At the time you were either a jew or gentile.
So if god has taken away the Kingdom and given it to another people then they have become the chosen.Who are they?
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28th September 2004, 09:05 AM
|  | Gnostic Christian 26  | | Join Date: 22nd September 2003 Location: Brno
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Reps: 631 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by caller_to_truth So if god has taken away the Kingdom and given it to another people then they have become the chosen.Who are they?
Peace
I told you, names aren't important, everyone who lets the Christ spirit manifest through him, or the Buddha spirit, or the Krishna spirit(they are all One thing in the end), it doesn't matter. No Christian is a Christian because he says it, no Hindu is a Hindu because he says it, etc.
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28th September 2004, 02:55 PM
| | Senior Member 46  | | Join Date: 10th September 2004 Location: In god's earth
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Reps: 261 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Petr I told you, names aren't important, everyone who lets the Christ spirit manifest through him, or the Buddha spirit, or the Krishna spirit(they are all One thing in the end), it doesn't matter. No Christian is a Christian because he says it, no Hindu is a Hindu because he says it, etc.
It does matter because it does not say here that names are not important that every one will bre given the kingdom.It say a "NATION." that is clear i wish people would answer these post with fact instead of just opinion and guessing.If people are just fololowing blindly and they don't have any knowldge of their books then that is why they are ignorant of the facts.Read find out more then come and discuss.read even the Quran, find out the truth instaed of just one two verse tyou heard someone quoting or bashing here and there.,save yourselves the embarassment.
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28th September 2004, 11:17 PM
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Reps: 19 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Petr I told you, names aren't important, everyone who lets the Christ spirit manifest through him, or the Buddha spirit, or the Krishna spirit(they are all One thing in the end), it doesn't matter. No Christian is a Christian because he says it, no Hindu is a Hindu because he says it, etc.
Contrary to what is being said here, I think that Petr's post is quite well-informed and honest. What is important in this quote is that the Christ spirit is not attached to a place, but rather, within.
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