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remember it was only raining for 40 days, the actual flood is supposed to have lasted alot longer than that - a whole year. many ecosystems are extremely fragile, and would never have survived.
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How come no one's suggested the animals became photosynthetic for a short time? You know, micro-evolution and all that.
Because Animals do not run a Calvin Cycle, No Chloroplasts We are stuck with our TCA Cycle while plants get to do both Calvin and TCA.
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Nothing short of a miracle. Miracle, did I say that?? (looks around nervously)
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Because Animals do not run a Calvin Cycle, No Chloroplasts We are stuck with our TCA Cycle while plants get to do both Calvin and TCA.
There go my plans for Autotrophic Weekend 2004.
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Even if seeds had survived all that time, the ground would be pretty infertile if it had been covered in salt or brackish water all that time. There aren't many plants that can grow on such damaged terrain.
I take it that the specialist eaters like the koalas and pandas didn't microevolve until after the plants they ate also microevolved?
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Yeah, it would be nice to be able to just sit in the sunshine sipping water...running light and dark reactions
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You guys aren't up on your flood! I checked the source, Dr. Dino (he can fire out answers faster than a greased eel). There weren't any carnivores on the ark, as all of the animals were vegitarian. It was only after the flood that carnivores really developed. So we don't have to worry about decaying bodies, they just ate plants.
And let's also remember that some of the animals were just babies or eggs, and many of them were hibernating so they wouldn't eat very much.
You guys aren't up on your flood! I checked the source, Dr. Dino (he can fire out answers faster than a greased eel). There weren't any carnivores on the ark, as all of the animals were vegitarian. It was only after the flood that carnivores really developed. So we don't have to worry about decaying bodies, they just ate plants.
And let's also remember that some of the animals were just babies or eggs, and many of them were hibernating so they wouldn't eat very much.
Problem solved! Now don't you feel silly?
I dunno about silly, but I do feel a bit dumber.
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OK, so they ate plants. Which plants? The ones buried under five miles of sediment or the ones that had spent several months floating around in seawater along with a bunch of decomposing animals?
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