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Good Point!



Originally Posted by reformedfan
BB Warfield rocks! You are kidding me, he believed in evolution!?! Man, no way!
That guy was so right about so many things...
(except for classical apologetics vs. presuppositional).

Oh well, guess he has clay feet after all. Doesn't prove evolution, just proves no man (no matter how brilliant) is perfect.

You'll find that's true of life. That should disprove evolution, shouldn't it? Our species isn't getting more & more perfect, but staying exactly the same as they have been since the fall of Adam. Tell me, what is the evolutionary advantage of homosexuality, lying, stealing, cheating on your taxes, etc? Shouldn't those 'base impulses' be about weeded out of the species by now?
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look on americanpresbyterian churg dot org

then under evolution under b b warfield

I would post the link, but I have to get in 15 POSTS first !


Originally Posted by Micaiah
Has any one seen any real quotes from this bloke, where he talks about what he believed? So far I haven't seen any.
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Agree

Absolutely !




Originally Posted by DURANG0
from the first link:

Noll, Mark A. and David Livingston.* B. B. Warfield:* Evolution, Science, and Scripture, Selected Writings.* Grand Rapids:* Baker, 2000.* This contains an article on Scripture, “The Divine and Human in the Bible,” as well as thirty-nine articles, lectures, and reviews on the book’s subject.* This is one of Warfield’s more controversial areas of thought because he accepted the possibility of evolution in some form while denying Darwinism.


They claim that BB Warfield was remarkably well read on and respectful of the science of his time. Of course that was science of THAT time. Science of our time has cast a serious doubt on evolutionism.
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I totally disagree, but again, I agree that this thread is more about Warfield than Evolution. Start a new thread if we are going to debate Evolution. Of course This was posted long ago....I'm JUST TRYING TO GET MY POSTS in so I can post a link !




Originally Posted by LorentzHA
False the last 150 years have only substantiated evolution. Everything we discover fits perfectly.
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Plenty of Examples

Read anything by Phillip Johnson or William Dembski

Or pick up Lee Strobel's book: Case for a Creator


Originally Posted by DURANG0
Do you have an example?????
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No....it's just you



Originally Posted by Arikay
Is it just me, or do most of the people who oppose evolution not have a clue what they are talking about?
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An even with all that....hearts can be "darkened" towards the truth. That is in fact the position of the Reformed Faith. Read Chapter 1 in Romans:


Romans 1:17-29 17 For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith; as it is written, "The just shall live by faith." 18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19 because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools, 23 and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man -- and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things. 24 Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, 25 who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. 26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. 27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due. 28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting; 29 being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers,

Originally Posted by pureone
No, it is not a religion. I have no deity to which I pray. I have not "faith in it, instead reveiw the evidence. and come to the conclusion that God ceated in this manner.
Not really, since I do not beleive in hell.
Again science is not an religion. If so, you and Imust both worship physics. nice ad hominem BTW. That will prove your point and win people over to Jesus in a second.

Again, please give evidence against evolution besides your personal misinterpretation of the bible.

If you want evolution evidinceI can present you with over 200,000 scientific papers used in support of evolution. Then you must refute each and every one.
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What Happened to Warfield in all this Evolution Talk ?




Originally Posted by PhantomLlama
And it has.


Evolution is not a religion. Learn what evolution is and isn't, then come back here.


Evolution is not a religion. Learn what evolution is and isn't, then come back here.


Spontaneous generation has nothing to do with evolution. Learn what evolution is and isn't, then come back here.


Cloning has nothing to do with evolution. Learn what evolution is and isn't, then come back here.


Star formation has nothing to do with evolution. Learn what evolution is and isn't, then come back here.


Evolution is not a religion. Learn what evolution is and isn't, then come back here.


Evolution is not a religion. Learn what evolution is and isn't, then come back here.


Evolution is not a religion. Learn what evolution is and isn't, then come back here.
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Agree

Were is Warfield ? Oh...nevermind: there's 15 !
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