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Old 12th February 2004, 09:54 AM
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Alert Creationist FAQ

So many creationists seem to have the same general questions (although some of them don't even state them as questions...), so here are the answers:

Is evolution a religion?
No. Evolution is wholly compatible with Christianity. Many of the Christians on this forum are non-Creationist. Evolution does not include any hypothesis on the origin of life or the creation of the universe; that is a different study called "abiogenesis" which is still in heavy debate.
More detailed discussion: http://talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-god.html

Do mutations ever create new information?
Yes.
Example: http://www.nmsr.org/nylon.htm
More examples: http://www.gate.net/~rwms/EvoMutations.html

Are there transitional fossils?
Yes.
Examples: http://christianforums.com/t43227

Does this forum want to be preached to?
No. This is a science forum. The religion of the poster does not really matter here.

Does Dr. Kent Hovind's $250,000 evolution challenge make any sort of sense?
None whatsoever.
A discussion here: http://talkorigins.org/faqs/hovind.html
The challenge is trumped here: http://osaka.is.dreaming.org/creationism.html

(Add your own FAQs in this thread...)
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EVILutionists are all atheists.

Sorry, I have no statistics to support what a load of offal this is, but based on statistics it's obviously untrue.
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We could just link to the ICC, but most of them wouldn't bother reading it.
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Does Dr. Kent Hovind's $250,000 evolution challenge make any sort of sense?

One more thing about this, my thread on the forums,
http://www.christianforums.com/t90515
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Doesn't the Second Law of Thermodynamics say.....?

NO! No it doesnt say whatever you think it says. The Second Law has nothing to do with evolution, and nothing to do with the Big Bang and nothing to do with star formation. Before ever mentioning the second law again, go and learn from a proper science book what it actually is.

What about The Law of Conservation of angular momentum, doesn't that say.......?

NO! No it doesnt say whatever you think it says. All it means is that the sum of all moments about a point within a system remains constant in all interactions. Before ever mentioning Angular Momentum again, go and learn from a proper science book what it actually is.
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Polonium Halos prove a young earth.
Here's a couple threads on that subject.
http://www.christianforums.com/t88213
http://www.christianforums.com/t69836
http://www.christianforums.com/t53465

Halo FAQ
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/po-halos/gentry.html

Carbon Dating is false.
http://www.c14dating.com/
Limitations of Carbon Dating
http://www.don-lindsay-archive.org/creation/carbon.html

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Are There Things That Can't Be Carbon-Dated?

Yes. The method doesn't work on things which didn't get their carbon from the air. This leaves out aquatic creatures, since their carbon might (for example) come from dissolved carbonate rock. That causes a dating problem with any animal that eats seafood. We can't date things that are too old. After about ten half-lives, there's very little C14 left. So, anything more than about 50,000 years old probably can't be dated at all. If you hear of a carbon dating up in the millions of years, you're hearing a confused report.

We can't date oil paints, because their oil is "old" carbon from petroleum.

We can't date fossils, for three reasons. First, they are almost always too old. Second, they rarely contain any of the original carbon. And third, it is common to soak new-found fossils in a preservative, such as shellac. It is also standard to coat fossils during their extraction and transport. Acetone is sometimes used while extracting fossils, because it dissolves dirt. In short, unless you have evidence to the contrary, you should assume that most of the carbon in a fossil is from contamination, and is not originally part of the fossil.

We also can't date things that are too young. The nuclear tests of the 1950's created a lot of C14. Also, humans are now burning large amounts of "fossil fuel". As the name suggests, fossil fuel is old, and no longer contains C14. Both of these man-made changes are a nuisance to carbon dating.

If you hear of a living tree being dated as a thousand years old, that is not necessarily an example of an incorrect dating. Trees only grow on the outside. Wood taken from the innermost ring really is as old as the tree.

Magnetic Field Flip-flops during the flood.
http://gondwanaresearch.com/hp/magfield.htm

Have decay rates decreased dramatically from what they once were?
http://gondwanaresearch.com/hp/adam.htm
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The forum needs this thread.
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Oh, Oh! Someone go over the YEC global flood theory!
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Polonium Halos prove a young earth.

Halo FAQ
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/po-halos/gentry.html
DO you actually read the links you post?

Summary/Conclusions
Gentry's polonium halo hypothesis for a young Earth fails all tests
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I think thats the point, AirPo old chap.
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