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10th February 2004, 07:25 PM
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Reps: 109 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Kingdom_of_God Then they should GIVE him the dang wallet.....
Dodging the issue. Whose fault is it? Would you jail the mugger, because the death was his fault? Or say it's the dead guy's tough luck, because he chose to die, and let the mugger go free? | 
10th February 2004, 07:28 PM
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Reps: 109 (power: 0) | | | Kingdom_Of_God, are you saying that Genesis 1:28 means it is wrong to use contraception of any kind (including the 'rhythm method'), masturbate, or ANY form of sexual activity that cannot or is less likely to result in conception? | 
10th February 2004, 07:46 PM
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Reps: 109 (power: 0) | | | I predict we won't see Kingdom_of_God on this thread again...questions got too hard for him... | 
10th February 2004, 08:03 PM
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Reps: 10 (power: 0) | | I could've done bigger explanations but I don't feel like it. And if you do not like these answers oh well I don't care. I tried that's all that matters.
Are you saying that your deity wishes you try, and as long as you made an effort to convert me away from science and towards Christianity, then you have pleased your deity and thus have earned Heaven points?
But, what if your deity believes you didn't try hard enough and thus will instead earn Hell points for your lack of contribution?
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10th February 2004, 08:16 PM
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Reps: 109 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Paleo-Conservative Are you saying that your deity wishes you try, and as long as you made an effort to convert me away from science and towards Christianity, then you have pleased your deity and thus have earned Heaven points?
But, what if your deity believes you didn't try hard enough and thus will instead earn Hell points for your lack of contribution?
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I think what he actuall MEANT was "this is the best I can do 'cos these questions are too hard for me". | 
10th February 2004, 09:00 PM
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Reps: 10 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by toff bevets, I don't like to do this, but I have no option but to call you a liar. The statements you make above are false, and this has been demonstrated to you any number of times in other threads. Not once have you ever been able to demonstrate them - you haven't even tried. Instead, you've spewed forth irrelevant quotes, and then whined when people asked you to actually address the issue instead of quote mine.
Specifically, the following statements in your quote above are false:
- We agree that evolution is in direct conflict with Christianity
- the common misconception that evolution is science
- the question of origins is a question of history not science
- evolution is atheist mythology with scienctific jargon tacked on
- evolution is only relevant if God is irrelevant
Yet again, I challenge you to demonstrate the above, withOUT using your usual quote-mining. In other words, demonstrate it from SCIENCE references, not from quote-mining, and use your own words to argue your points, not others'. If you cannot do this - and you cannot - I have no option but to call you a liar.
I think,... to be fair to bevets, it's wrong to label him a liar. He is after all, entitled to express his opinion.
If evolution is as dogmatic as a lot of people on this forum make it out to be, then evolution is extremely hypocritical. | 
10th February 2004, 09:07 PM
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Reps: 109 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Too_many_tries I think,... to be fair to bevets, it's wrong to label him a liar. He is after all, entitled to express his opinion.
If evolution is as dogmatic as a lot of people on this forum make it out to be, then evolution is extremely hypocritical.
Yes, he is entitled to express his opinion. But some opinions are simply wrong. And an opinion held after it has been repeatedly refuted and you have failed to defend it is a dishonest opinion.
In short, bevets posts false information which he knows is false. This is a lie. | 
10th February 2004, 09:10 PM
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Reps: 10 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by toff Yes, he is entitled to express his opinion. But some opinions are simply wrong. And an opinion held after it has been repeatedly refuted and you have failed to defend it is a dishonest opinion.
In short, bevets posts false information which he knows is false. This is a lie.
I can't speak for Bevets. | 
10th February 2004, 09:13 PM
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Reps: 29,807,908,674,769,116 (power: 29,807,908,674,784) | | Originally Posted by Kingdom_of_God Most religions (Such as Islam and Mormonism) have Jesus has a "character" in their holy books. They all point to Christianity, Islam is a false religion (Catholics accidentally started it) I would check the book "Who is Allah" for more.
I'm sorry? How did the Catholics start Islam?
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10th February 2004, 09:13 PM
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Reps: 29,807,908,674,769,116 (power: 29,807,908,674,784) | | Originally Posted by Kingdom_of_God You miss my point. The point is a Christian believes in Jesus and he is the son of God - Jesus mentioned Moses who mentioned the 6 day creation...
And many Christian writers referred to Odysseus.
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