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15th September 2004, 03:01 PM
| | | | Is Suffering By Perseution the Result of a Lack of Faith?
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It is being said that WoFers commonly say that believers suffer persecution and even death because of a lack of faith. Do you as a WoFer believe this?
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15th September 2004, 03:22 PM
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As long as folks don't take this into the "sickness is suffering" realm...
Paul suffered tremendous persecution, many times unto death or left for dead. But he got up and walked away defiant of death until his course was finished.
I hear tales of the apostle John. How they couldn't kill him so they finally shipped him off to Patmos.
I believe a lot of persecution that we see is man's inhumanity to man. I also believe the opening spectrum of what is depicted in Revelation is simply the same thing.
Our faith, I believe, plays an active role in that despite the circumstance of persecution, we become independent of it through grace.
And whether we escape or whether we die, if it all boils down to it, what do we really have to lose?
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a lot of people get the two confused...
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Galatians 3:19 - What then was the purpose of the Law? It was added because of transgressions and [to make men more conscious of the sinfulness] of sin; and it was intended to be in effect until the Seed (the Descendant, the Heir) should come, to and concerning Whom the promise had been made. |
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Reps: 1,530 (power: 11) | | Originally Posted by riverpastor People suffer when they are sick but they do not suffer persecution...
a lot of people get the two confused...
but what is the suffering we are talking about here? The pain of sickness, or the suffering of standing on healing regardless of what your body, mind, friends, family, and world is telling you?
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It is being said that WoFers commonly say that believers suffer persecution and even death because of a lack of faith. Do you as a WoFer believe this?
Well I never heard the "persecution" part being lack of faith. I would say I am blessed if and when I suffer persecution for Christ.
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15th September 2004, 06:40 PM
| | | Originally Posted by Suffolk Sean Is sickness suffering? I never saw Jesus sick, but I know that He suffered. He suffered for doing right in a world that refused to see who He was....
Amen SS...
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15th September 2004, 06:42 PM
| | | | One place where people seemed to get confused is with the Paul. They want to believe that the "thorn in the flesh" was sickness. Every indication is that it was persecution that was stirred up by an angel of satan.
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15th September 2004, 06:44 PM
| | | Originally Posted by Blade Well I never heard the "persecution" part being lack of faith. I would say I am blessed if and when I suffer persecution for Christ.
Me neither. But a reliable sourse says it is not only widespread but typical. It needs to be nipped in the bud. We have enough to justify without having people throwing this into the mix. | | |
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