One important thing to note about Romans is that forensic justification through substitutionary atonement is not the only metaphor for salvation found there. Look for others, particularly reconciliation, but there are more.
Well you guys have given me a lot to think about! thanks... I'm not to sure about Rom 8,9,10 now though, I mean yeah it discusses Israel, but that doesn't mean its not applicable to our lives today, what about the ten commandments?
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For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
By the way, does anyone else feel that Romans is the 'ammunition box' for the 'Reformed'? Cause I've had a lot of exposure to Reformed teachings, and many of those I disagree with are directly quoted from Romans (this is partly why I wanted to study it in the first place)
Anyone got an opinion on this?
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For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
Well you guys have given me a lot to think about! thanks... I'm not to sure about Rom 8,9,10 now though, I mean yeah it discusses Israel, but that doesn't mean its not applicable to our lives today, what about the ten commandments?
Who said it wasn't applicable?
All of God's laws are good, if we use them lawfully.
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The King James Bible, Newsweek, Dec. 27, 1982 p.46”
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These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so. (Act 17:11 KJV) In other words; don't believe anything you are told, without searching the scriptures daily... yourself.
By the way, does anyone else feel that Romans is the 'ammunition box' for the 'Reformed'? Cause I've had a lot of exposure to Reformed teachings, and many of those I disagree with are directly quoted from Romans (this is partly why I wanted to study it in the first place)
Anyone got an opinion on this?
Oh, definitely. I often explain the difference between Reformed theology and Anabaptist theology is that Reformed look at everything through the lens of Romans, while Anabaptists look at everything through the lens of the Sermon on the Mount.
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