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Old 26th January 2004, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by East Anglican
Energy converts to energy but E=MC2. The only thing that could travel at the speed of light squared is a god. The speed of light is required for theoretical time travel.The God we serve inhabits eternity. Therefore I believe all energy was originally created by God.
The energy inherint in matter is equal to the mass of the matter times the speed of light in a vacuum squared. Nothing is traveling at c^2
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Old 26th January 2004, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by East Anglican
The laws of physics are there bbecause God made them that way. They are more absolute then the ten commandments are absolute. They can not be broken. Mathamaticly, they are perfect as God their creator is perfect.
Don't get too carried away here. You just eliminated miracles. Because many miracles are violations of the laws of physics and you say they "can not be broken".

The laws of physics are actually theories. They are mathematical descriptions of how a part of the physical universe behaves under stated circumstances. But they can, and have, been "broken" when the circumstances are changed. For instance, Newtons "laws of motion" are not mathematically perfect as they are reductions of more complex equations that apply at low velocities.
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Originally Posted by pmh1nic
I don't think I've ever heard a person that believes in special creation say the Big Bang could not have happened because it violates energy conservation.
If you go to the other creationism vs evolution forum you will see this argument several times in the last 4 months. Apparently it is a new argument in YEC circles.

In fact energy conservaton says that all the matter and energy in the universe has always existed which to me is a description of the eternal nature of God.
But having matter/energy exist forever is against the Big Bang. Matter/energy came into existence at the BB.

As far as the perfection of "the system" is concerned I think you'd get some strong arguments from leading theoritical physicist that the conflicting issues between relativity and quantum mechanism are finding perfect solutions in Superstring Theory.
Maybe. You would also get an argument from loop quantum gravity people that String Theory is not perfect math because it uses ad hoc hypotheses as their basis. The January issue of Scientific American has a great article on this.

Theortical physics research (the mathematics of physics research) is far ahead of experimental physics, so far ahead that it probably won't catch up to substantiate what is being theorized and substantiated mathematically with respect ot the harmony between relativity and quantum mechanics in our lifetime.
In term of M Theory, that is probably true. However loop quantum gravity may be able to be tested before that. Again, see the January Scientific American.
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Originally Posted by East Anglican
The only thing that could travel at the speed of light squared is a god.
Or tachyons. Remember, according to Special Relativity there can be particles that travel only at velocities greater than c.

Energy converts to energy but E=MC2.
I think you mean energy converts to matter. However, what the equation says is that matter and energy are two different forms of the same thing.

The God we serve inhabits eternity. Therefore I believe all energy was originally created by God.
I have no trouble with your statement of belief. However, it does not follow from anything else said in your post. Therefore the "therefore" is misplaced.
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