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Old 16th January 2004, 02:58 PM
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Saints

Do you have to be Catholic to become a saint? Were there any non-Catholic saints?
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Old 16th January 2004, 03:33 PM
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Sure: Abraham, Moses, Isaias, Elias, John the Baptist et alii.

Seriously: there have been no canonized nonCath "Saints", but there are plenty of nonCath saints in heaven.
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Originally Posted by Michelina
Sure: Abraham, Moses, Isaias, Elias, John the Baptist et alii.

Seriously: there have been no canonized nonCath "Saints", but there are plenty of nonCath saints in heaven.
What is the criteria for becoming a saint? Is there a basic set of rules? I

The reason I am asking these questions are

a) Because I am unfamiliar with the tenets of the Catholic church and

b) I think that Martin Luther King exemplified sainthood.
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Originally Posted by mhatten
What is the criteria for becoming a saint? Is there a basic set of rules?
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#828:By canonizing some of the faithful, i.e., by solemnly proclaiming that they practiced heroic virtue and lived in fidelity to God's grace, the Church recognizes the power of the Spirit of holiness within her and sustains the hope of believers by proposing the saints to them as models and intercessors. "The saints have always been the source and origin of renewal in the most difficult moments in the Church's history." Indeed, "holiness is the hidden source and infallible measure of her apostolic activity and missionary zeal."


Originally Posted by mhatten
I think that Martin Luther King exemplified sainthood.
He was certainly a martyr, imo. People can become 'saints' by martyrdom, which means someone is killed because he is a 'witness' (Greek word martyros means witness.) to the Gospel. I think that Rev. Dr. King fits that definition. I personally consider him a saint for that reason.
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There is a movement in the church for sainthood for MLK.
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There is a movement in the church for sainthood for MLK.
I am confused then . . my understanding is that he was an adulterer . .why would he be considered for canonization?


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I am confused then . . my understanding is that he was an adulterer . .why would he be considered for canonization?


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Originally Posted by pewrocker
There is a movement in the church for sainthood for MLK.
Really, I think that would be great
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Juan Diego was recently canonized.
Who is Juan Diego?
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