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21st January 2004, 11:53 PM
|  | Snazzy Title Goes Here 56  | | Join Date: 9th January 2004 Location: New Jersey
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Reps: 5,366,872,137,174,994 (power: 5,366,872,137,214) | | Originally Posted by Axion I love this one from the site: ELIZABETH I+
(1533-1603) Queen of England. When much of Europe was torn by bloody warfare over disputed points of Christian doctrine, heresy trials and religious purges, Elizabeth conceived a Church in which people of diverse beliefs, opinions and doctrines could be one through shared prayer and Eucharist. She used her power to forge religious peace on this new principle.
Torturing and disembowelling thousands of Catholics was clearly part of this "religious peace."
It is no doubt amazing what we have done to each other in the name of God.
__________________ "America, we have come so far. We have seen so much. But there is so much more to do. So tonight, let us ask ourselves – if our children should live to see the next century; if my daughters should be so lucky to live as long as Ann Nixon Cooper, what change will they see? What progress will we have made?
This is our chance to answer that call. This is our moment. This is our time – to put our people back to work and open doors of opportunity for our kids; to restore prosperity and promote the cause of peace; to reclaim the American Dream and reaffirm that fundamental truth – that out of many, we are one; that while we breathe, we hope, and where we are met with cynicism, and doubt, and those who tell us that we can’t, we will respond with that timeless creed that sums up the spirit of a people:
Yes We Can. "
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22nd January 2004, 02:16 AM
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Reps: 482,255,127,068,893,376 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by mhatten It sounds like he should not be based on Catholic doctrine, which I have no problem with.
One poster noted distingquishing between "what a "Saint" is in the eyes of the Church and the great things that a man can accomplish in this world for good" which is probably correct.
It is funny I have never even thought of MLK on his spiritual terms, to say what he believed in terms of the Bible and church practice, I guess I have been "blinded" by what no doubt was his great influence in the civil rights arena.
This has sparked a need for me to discover his spirituality if possible.
I think it is that we assume he was traditional christian in his beliefs because he owned the title "Reverend" and so it was not questioned much . . if you read the writings from the site I posted (stanford) you will be able to get a feel for his spiritual thoughts and life . .
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22nd January 2004, 09:24 AM
|  | Born-again Liberal Episcopalian 64  | | Join Date: 4th September 2003 Location: USA
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22nd January 2004, 10:27 AM
|  | Veteran 39  | | Join Date: 14th July 2003 Location: New York, NY, USA
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Reps: 226 (power: 0) | | | Bear in mind, the canonized saints are the great men and women of faith we know about... think of the millions of saints throughout history we've never heard of...
Canonization is more for OUR benefit, to inspire us to greatness by seeing how the Holy Spirit worked in "the cloud of witnesses" who preceeded us in the Faith. We recognize these Christian "forefathers" (and "foremothers") and realize that we too are One Body with them, these simple mortals blessed by God... as we too are. |  | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | | | |