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Unrefuted, unrefutable, and mostly irrelevant to anyone else.
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Like seebs said, there are arguments that are philosophically non-refutable. The appearence of age argument is one (although easily countered by proposed last-Tuesdayism or a variant thereof).
But if you're looking for scientific arguments that creationists have put forth, yet remained unrefuted, I'm not aware of any.
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Yeahhh, like the explanation: I know it's true, because it says so right here in the Bible. (pounding fist on Bible cover)
Scientifically or logically? No nothing unrefuted.
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Well, creationists do come up with a number of unfalsifiable "explanations" such as Last Thursdayism. Of course, the thing about unfalsifiable ideas is that they're of rather limited use. But have they come up with any pro-creationism or anti-evolution arguments that are unrefuted? Not to my knowledge.
Nah, there are no unrefutable claims about evolution that come from creationists. Well, actually, that all depends-I've heard a few claims by creationists that have nothing to do with evolution that are pretty bizarre.
For example, one creationist (IIRC) was trying to say that the food on earth was evidence of God...In some sense...Actually I'm not entirely sure what the point was, read about it here: http://www.cell-block.com/showthread...threadid=42260
Here's the person's argument:
Alright how you explain all the food that's on the earth? All the food that we are eating comes from GOD and we all know **** well that food is good and all credit goes to GOD from making it. But i do wanna hear everyones views on this subject and even tho im very closed minded, im not gonna believe what you tell me. But please share your thoughts. yes i wanna hear all the evolution and science theorys, lol one time tho.
The food in this word is too complex for man to even begin to accept, yet alone understand.
I'm not exactly sure why the amount of food on the earth shows that God exists or that it's related to IC...
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Has anyone EVER seen a creationist argument that hasn't been refuted? Or can't be?
So here are a few topics from Creation Mag that a friend gave me the other day....
"A well preserved fossil crab has been found within inches of a tail bone from a massive plant eating dinosaur." at Egypts Bahariya Oasis. proof of Flood depositing animals together.
Protein/DNA survivor from "50,000" year old bison .....the osteocalcin protien matches modern bison perfectly disproving Evo.
World-leading butterfly book launches a stunning attack on Evolution..Bernard d'Ambrera
Early Galaxies dont fit! Extremely distant Galaxies show spiral structures proving early Age!
Evolution Revolution.. Stick insect flight research upsets one of Evolutionists long held beliefs
Has anyone EVER seen a creationist argument that hasn't been refuted? Or can't be?
ANY theory of origins makes metaphysical assumptions.
The theory of natural selection is then revealed as metaphysical rather than scientific. Natural selection explains nothing because it explains everything. ~ Richard Lewontin
I now wish to give some reasons why I regard Darwinism as metaphysical, and as a research programme. It is metaphysical because it is not testable. ~ Karl Poper
Darwinists believe that the mutation-selection mechanism accomplishes wonders of creativity not because the wonders can be demonstrated, but because they cannot think of a more plausible explanation for the existence of wonders that does not involve an unacceptable creator, i.e., a being or force outside the world of nature. ~ Phillip Johnson
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The theory of natural selection is then revealed as metaphysical rather than scientific. Natural selection explains nothing because it explains everything. ~ Richard Lewontin
natural selection is not a theory, it is a fact.
I now wish to give some reasons why I regard Darwinism as metaphysical, and as a research programme. It is metaphysical because it is not testable. ~ Karl Poper
Darwinism is very testable.
Darwinists believe that the mutation-selection mechanism accomplishes wonders of creativity not because the wonders can be demonstrated, but because they cannot think of a more plausible explanation for the existence of wonders that does not involve an unacceptable creator, i.e., a being or force outside the world of nature. ~ Phillip Johnson
false.
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