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24th December 2003, 12:48 AM
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How does traces of the blood protein hemogloben recovered from a T-Rex’s trabecular tissue exist for over 80+MY’s?
Isn’t it true that Hemoglobin breaks down rather quickly and could not last for millions upon millions of years.
Then again the bible has the answer...the earth is not millions of years old. |
24th December 2003, 12:58 AM
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" If the world isn't million of years old, why don't we find more unfossilized dinosaur bones and hemogloben, after all, we find he unfossilized bones of mammoths and other large mammals, why not more dinosaurs?".
I believe that in the find Ark Guy is referencing that it was not intact hemogloben, but it was the broken down derivative heme that where found, so basically, the hemogloben did not survive. What was found was some of the organic compoiunds that make up hemogloben. http://www.exn.ca/Stories/1997/06/12/03.asp
"It's the first time that blood components, specifically fragments of hemoglobin, have been recovered from dinosaur bones making this find the closest science has come to Michael Crichton's "Lost World."" |
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24th December 2003, 10:32 AM
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Reps: 11 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Karl - Liberal Backslider What's also interesting is that the story peters out after about 1998. The likely explanation is that further tests showed that this was not what the team hoped it to be.
Interesting way you wrote that KLBS....."The likely explanation"...Likely????
What is the real explanation and not the likely explanation KLBS?
A google search for hemoglobin and dinosaur yields tons of hits. |
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As well, the hemoglobin wouldn't last 6,000 years either, so this isn't really proof one way or another. Either notto is right and it's broken down heme or it was preserved some way, and you've managed to ruffle no feathers.
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Reps: 11 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by notto The question should be:
"If the world isn't million of years old, why don't we find more unfossilized dinosaur bones and hemogloben, after all, we find he unfossilized bones of mammoths and other large mammals, why not more dinosaurs?".
From what I have read, but not studied to much on, the mammoths were frozen POST-FLOOD.
I would think that the colder temperatures in these more northern areas where the mammoths were roaming kept the dinosaurs away creating a geographical seperation of these animal kinds.
As to why we don't find more hemogloben, it seems that it breaks down rather quickly, sooner than 4,000 years.
The question still remains, how did it survive for 80+ MY's? |
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What's that tell you?
One thing that is interesting is that many of the google hits are from creationists websites, many that are saying that 'blood cells' were found or that 'intact hemogloben' was found. This is far from the truth and is either an intentional deception or a statement from ignorance. |
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Reps: 11 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Bushido216 A google search for "Loch Ness Monster and Proof" yields forty thousand hits as well.
As well, the hemoglobin wouldn't last 6,000 years either, so this isn't really proof one way or another. Either notto is right and it's broken down heme or it was preserved some way, and you've managed to ruffle no feathers.
The search has nothing to do with how many hits equals proof of it being true...sheeze Bushido.
When you do such a search you then need to filter through it and pull out the technical/scientific sites....then go from there. But of course you already knew that. |
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Reps: 11 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by notto An interesting tidbit about this find is that the antibody tests that were used were positive in turkeys and pigeons but were negative in snakes.
What's that tell you?
One thing that is interesting is that many of the google hits are from creationists websites, many that are saying that 'blood cells' were found or that 'intact hemogloben' was found. This is far from the truth and is either an intentional deception or a statement from ignorance.
Isn't it ironic that Notto who often is the first to complain when a source isn't presented...never really presents one himself. | | |
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