Animals don't have FEELINGS!

Can someone help me by letting me know some verses that prove that animals don't have feelings? It is so logical and is common sense, but it never occured to me to remember where the Word says so. Any help would be appreciated! Thanks!

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I am honestly not quite sure what you are asking, or why you are posting in this forum. Animals do have feelings, we are animals, we have feelings. Other animals have feelings as well, do you have any pets?

"Logical and is common sense" that animals don't have feelings?

Observing the behavior of my cat, I must disagree.

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Why would you want to prove that animals don't have feelings? For that matter, how do you even know they don't have feelings? For instance, my dog is always excited when I come home, pouts and cries when I yell at her and tell her no, yelps and cries when I accidentally step on her tail...etc etc. Just because they can't put their feelings into words, doesn't mean they don't have any.

As a pet-owner, I think it is obvious that pets have feelings. Beat a dog, watch it. Leave an animal that is attached to an individual for an extended period of time, and watch it. Love an animal and watch it.

But, I guess you will have to define 'feelings' in the context that you wish us to view it.

Some animals are not self-aware like us and thus do not have feelings per se, just the illusion of them. I would say that some animals near the top of the intelligence tree are self-aware, (chimps, and other apes, dolphins) but where to draw the line is a near impossible question to answer.

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Um.. isn't this a Christian only forum? Maybe I went to the wrong forum.

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John 16:33 -- "...In the world you have tribulation, but be of good cheer! I have overcome the world!"
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http://www.christianforums.com/forum...ysprune=&f=143

Christian only science forum for your perusal and enjoyment. A scripture question might be better placed in a theology forum though.

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Greatest Hovind quote of all time, as voted for by members of CF:
"Teaching the pagan religion of evolutionism is a waste of valuable class time and textbook space. It is also one of the reasons American kids don't test as well in science as kids in other parts of the world."

What does that matter?

The answers to all the questions in the universe are not found in scripture.

Pretty sure that they do have feelings actually.... observing animals I find it hard to come to any other conclusion.

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