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24th December 2003, 10:43 AM
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Reps: 2,135,762,928 (power: 2,135,774) | | Originally Posted by Ark Guy The biblical contradictions continue......There is also proof that says a guy doesn't come back to life on the third day of being dead. When you have been dead for that long...you stay dead. Or so the medical profession says.
Ark Guy, you're being dishonest. You know that's now what I said. Please stick to the main discussion and do not derail what I said.
We have no direct evidence contradicting Lazarus's resurrection. However, we do have evidence contradicting a literal Genesis 1:1-8.
Is this clear?
/me notes that it has only been 10 hours and 47 minutes since he last explained this.
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24th December 2003, 10:51 AM
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Reps: 26,066,859,207 (power: 26,066,884) | | | How far above the earth was this star? Was it within the atmosphere? 500 feet? 2 miles? Was it closer than the sun? Outside the Milky Way? |
24th December 2003, 11:01 AM
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Reps: 11 (power: 0) | | | For the star to move and stand over a particular house I don't think a star in the heavens would give that kind of resolution from the earth.
I think your 500 feet is more like it.
I also think during the birth of Christ it was much higher. High enough for the Magi to see, recognize as unusual and fullfillment of what they believed could be prophecy, then start their journey. |
24th December 2003, 11:04 AM
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Reps: 11 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Bushido216 We have no direct evidence contradicting Lazarus's resurrection. However, we do have evidence contradicting a literal Genesis 1:1-8.
Is this clear?
One would think that Bushido would agree that in lazarus's case...4...days of being dead, then rising back to life contradicts science.
But for some strange reason he just can't accept that fact. |
24th December 2003, 11:05 AM
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24th December 2003, 11:24 AM
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Reps: 2,135,762,928 (power: 2,135,774) | | Originally Posted by Ark Guy One would think that Bushido would agree that in lazarus's case...4...days of being dead, then rising back to life contradicts science.
But for some strange reason he just can't accept that fact.
Okay... I'll word it like this. We have no scientific evidence denying that raising from the dead, okay? Are you happy now?
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24th December 2003, 11:42 AM
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Reps: 11 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Bushido216 Okay... I'll word it like this. We have no scientific evidence denying that raising from the dead, okay? Are you happy now?
Bushido, the scientific evidence is that ...it/that... can't happen.
For example last night I broad jumped 50 yards. That's half a football field!!!...can you present some scientific evidence denying that?
The ability for something NOT TO OCCUR, such as a resurrection or that long of a broad jump is scientific evidence enough that it didn't occur.
Do you understand yet or will I need to explain it a bit more to you? |
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24th December 2003, 12:05 PM
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Reps: 2,135,762,928 (power: 2,135,774) | | Originally Posted by Ark Guy Bushido, the scientific evidence is that ...it/that... can't happen.
For example last night I broad jumped 50 yards. That's half a football field!!!...can you present some scientific evidence denying that?
The ability for something NOT TO OCCUR, such as a resurrection or that long of a broad jump is scientific evidence enough that it didn't occur.
Do you understand yet or will I need to explain it a bit more to you?
That's why it's a miracle, Ark Guy, keep up.
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24th December 2003, 12:25 PM
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Reps: 11 (power: 0) | | | And the creation of Adam from the dust followed bt the creation of Eve from Adams side wasn't a miracle...perhaps you ought to get in the race Bushido.
This is the last I will post on this topic in this thread. if you wish to continue discussion, please start a new thread as this is off topic and not relating to the Star of Bethlehem | | |
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