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Results of False Predictions

I Was going through some old threads, and saw some of them on Harold Camping, thought I'd google him after that.

Turns out his False Predictions did quite a bit of damage to Family Radio.
Harold Camping may be facing doomsday, but not the one he intended | Religion News Service

Harold Camping | Christianpost.com - Today's Christian News Online

Recent reports indicate that the California-based Christian radio network Family Radio, run by evangelist Harold Camping, may be facing dire economic straits, as seen by public tax documents and alleged interviews with former Family Radio employees.
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And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.

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Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.

Matthew 5:43-48 (Pray for those that persecute you)
Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

Luke 6:27-29 (Love your enemies.)
But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you, Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you. And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloak forbid not to take thy coat also.


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If they find a Christian mistaken in a field which they themselves know well and hear him maintaining his foolish opinions about our books, how are they going to believe those books in matters concerning the resurrection of the dead, the hope of eternal life, and the kingdom of heaven, when they think their pages are full of falsehoods on facts which they themselves have learnt from experience and the light of reason? Reckless and incompetent expounders of holy Scripture bring untold trouble and sorrow on their wiser brethren when they are caught in one of their mischievous false opinions and are taken to task by those who are not bound by the authority of our sacred books.
Isaiah 8:12-13 (NIV) "Do not call conspiracy everything that these people call conspiracy; do not fear what they fear, and do not dread it. The Lord Almighty is the one you are to regard as holy, he is the one you are to fear, he is the one you are to dread."


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Unread 25th October 2013, 05:20 PM
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I glad to see that he admitted his sin and will no longer make these types of prediction.

Hopefully he has fully repented and received forgiveness.
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Unread 26th October 2013, 01:02 AM
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Now if only some others would do the same.
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Did anyone actually take it seriously? I thought it was light entertainment good for a grin. Poor old guy he is getting old and loosing the plot.
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Did anyone actually take it seriously? I thought it was light entertainment good for a grin. Poor old guy he is getting old and loosing the plot.


Unfortunately, many did take it seriously--many times! He would change dates and lead a bunch more to donate to him--he made a lot of money while those poor, foolish people, got poorer.
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Originally Posted by mmksparbud View Post
Unfortunately, many did take it seriously--many times! He would change dates and lead a bunch more to donate to him--he made a lot of money while those poor, foolish people, got poorer.
Stupid is as stupid does- Forrest Gump.
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“And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half.” –Daniel 12:7

From a folio cataloged as Yahuda MS 7.3g, f. 13v:

"So then the time times & half a time are 42 months or 1260 days or three years & an half, reckoning twelve months to a year & 30 days to a month as was done in the Calendar of the primitive year. And the days of short lived Beasts being put for the years of lived kingdoms, the period of 1260 days, if dated from the complete conquest of the three kings A.C. 800, will end A.C. 2060.


“It may end later, but I see no reason for its ending sooner. This I mention not to assert when the time of the end shall be, but to put a stop to the rash conjectures of fancifull men who are frequently predicting the time of the end, & by doing so bring the sacred prophesies into discredit as often as their predictions fail. Christ comes as a thief in the night, & it is not for us to know the times & seasons which God hath put into his own breast." –Isaac Newton

But... This is Christ's return and not the rapture of the saints. This is when we return with him on earth to reign a 1,000 years. If I had to pick a rapture date it would be seven years before Haley's comet next return, which would be July 28, 2054 (exactly 7 years before Haley's comet official return). And then, I must reassert Newton's statement... “It may end later, but I see no reason for its ending sooner. This I mention not to assert when the time of the end shall be, but to put a stop to the rash conjectures of fancifull men who are frequently predicting the time of the end, & by doing so bring the sacred prophesies into discredit as often as their predictions fail. Christ comes as a thief in the night, & it is not for us to know the times & seasons which God hath put into his own breast."

And there again... I believe in the doctrine of expectancy, which states it is a good idea to be ready for Christ to come (rapture, calling up, whatever) at any day and at any hour.


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Originally Posted by rockytopva View Post
“And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half.” –Daniel 12:7

From a folio cataloged as Yahuda MS 7.3g, f. 13v:

"So then the time times & half a time are 42 months or 1260 days or three years & an half, reckoning twelve months to a year & 30 days to a month as was done in the Calendar of the primitive year. And the days of short lived Beasts being put for the years of lived kingdoms, the period of 1260 days, if dated from the complete conquest of the three kings A.C. 800, will end A.C. 2060.


“It may end later, but I see no reason for its ending sooner. This I mention not to assert when the time of the end shall be, but to put a stop to the rash conjectures of fancifull men who are frequently predicting the time of the end, & by doing so bring the sacred prophesies into discredit as often as their predictions fail. Christ comes as a thief in the night, & it is not for us to know the times & seasons which God hath put into his own breast." –Isaac Newton

But... This is Christ's return and not the rapture of the saints. This is when we return with him on earth to reign a 1,000 years. If I had to pick a rapture date it would be seven years before Haley's comet next return, which would be July 28, 2054 (exactly 7 years before Haley's comet official return). And then, I must reassert Newton's statement... “It may end later, but I see no reason for its ending sooner. This I mention not to assert when the time of the end shall be, but to put a stop to the rash conjectures of fancifull men who are frequently predicting the time of the end, & by doing so bring the sacred prophesies into discredit as often as their predictions fail. Christ comes as a thief in the night, & it is not for us to know the times & seasons which God hath put into his own breast."

And there again... I believe in the doctrine of expectancy, which states it is a good idea to be ready for Christ to come (rapture, calling up, whatever) at any day and at any hour.


What is Yahuda MS?

I don't think that Israel was a state when Isaac Newton was alive, so he didn't see that major prophetic event.

I found it interesting that the period of John Wesley was the time of the Church of Philadelphia and the period of Billy Graham and Jimmy Swaggert was the Laodicean Church. I admit that we are the Church of Laodicea but I think that John Wesley would roll over in his grave if he saw what has become of his church.

There are many different opinions about the four horses. I've heard that the White horse is Catholicism, which was the world power for a time, the Black horse Capitalism, the Red horse Communism and the Pale "chloros" horse is Islam. Chloros means green and the color of Islam is green. Where chloros is used in Scripture it means green, as in green grass. Irvin Baxter teaches this and he says that the translators most likely thought that a green horse didn't make sense so they called it a "pale" horse. Just another theory.

Why Joel Osteen? I like him as a motivational speaker but I don't really think of him as a pastor. I like that he smiles a lot and flutters his eyelashes, lol. But I think his sermons are really soft and when he is asked a direct question about homosexuality or anything controversial, he dodges it, he doesn't take a stand.

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I like how this thread has gone from a man repenting from his sin and recanting his predictions to a thread about every wind of vain prophecy and its assertions.
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