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The Bible is crystal clear on the subject. But those that rely on human understanding alone,keep stumbling over the scripture.

"For he chose us in him BEFORE THE CREATION OF THE WORLD to be holy and blameless in his sight. In love "
Ephesians 1v4

"For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren. Moreover whom He predestined, these He also called; whom He called, these He also justified; and whom He justified, these He also glorified." Romans 8:29,30
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Knowing us as individuals and knowing us as the "body of Christ" are two different things.
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Pay attention to the scripture: "For he chose us"Ephesians 1v4 . And elsewhere :

"It does not, therefore, depend on human desire or effort, but on God’s mercy."
Romans 9v16

"What if God, although choosing to show his wrath and make his power known, bore with great patience the objects of his wrath—PREPARED for destruction? What if he did this to make the riches of his glory known to the objects of his mercy, whom he prepared in advance for glory"
Romans 9v22-23
God is sovereign. But we don't know, who has eternal security and who will ultimately end up in a sinful life or walking away from the faith. We can only live our lives as God has given it to us .We know for certain that, if we persevere till the end ,we will be saved.
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Knowing us as individuals and knowing us as the "body of Christ" are two different things.
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He did not just know us ,"FOR HE CHOSE US" .The body of Christ is made of the chosen ones.

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Originally Posted by The Unforgettable Fire View Post
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Matthew 25:34 ... Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come,ye be blessed of my Father, inherit the kingsom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

John 17:24 ... Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am: that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.

Acts 15:18 ... Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world.

even so ... God knew us because He is all-knowing ... He is Jah ...
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1 John 3:20 ... For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things.

Isaiah 46:9,10 ... Remember the former things of old:for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me, Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do my pleasure.

Matthew 10:30 ... But the very hairs of your head are all numbered.
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"For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren. Moreover whom He predestined, these He also called; whom He called, these He also justified; and whom He justified, these He also glorified." Romans 8:29,30

I like what Kat Kerr said. We existed inside of God before we came here. He knew us. He destined for us to come into this world and He fully intended for everyone to receive Jesus and be conformed to the image of the Son.

He loves us all the same and He didn't pick for some of us to not make it. That is not the character of God. It's a simple truth that He knew us before. It takes a little faith to receive it. All we know is this world, but obviously things are much greater than this little world.
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