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Unread 23rd September 2013, 05:23 PM
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If I'm not willing to give up all my belongings, does that mean I'm not saved?

Jesus once turned down a rich man for not being willing to give up his belongings. I realize that this commandment was NOT universal, but I'm not sure if i am willing to make such a sacrifice if Jesus told me to.
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Unread 23rd September 2013, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Rubiks View Post
Jesus once turned down a rich man for not being willing to give up his belongings. I realize that this commandment was NOT universal, but I'm not sure if i am willing to make such a sacrifice if Jesus told me to.
Jesus has not asked you to do this so why are you making up your
mind to a question He has never asked?

But seeing how you did ask the question, let me put it this way....

What if Christ stood before you today and told you that you could either
keep all you have and go to hell or else give all that you have, including
your life into His care and come and be with Him forever, what would you say?
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Unread 23rd September 2013, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Pal Handy View Post
Jesus has not asked you to do this so why are you making up your
mind to a question He has never asked?

But seeing how you did ask the question, let me put it this way....

What if Christ stood before you today and told you that you could either
keep all you have and go to hell or else give all that you have, including
your life into His care and come and be with Him forever, what would you say?
I think I'd choose Jesus
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Unread 23rd September 2013, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Rubiks View Post
I think I'd choose Jesus
There you go.

God doesn't mind us having nice stuff, because He's the one that gives it. God does mind it when that stuff has us (ie: Do we prioritise it more than God).

You clearly prioritise God, stop worrying and have fun!
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Originally Posted by pumpitup View Post
There you go.

God doesn't mind us having nice stuff, because He's the one that gives it. God does mind it when that stuff has us (ie: Do we prioritise it more than God).

You clearly prioritise God, stop worrying and have fun!
thanks!
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If I'm not willing to give up all my belongings, does that mean I'm not saved?
No, it does not.

If it did the prosperity preachers on those TV ministry programs would be going straight to Hell.
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Originally Posted by Rubiks View Post
Jesus once turned down a rich man for not being willing to give up his belongings. I realize that this commandment was NOT universal, but I'm not sure if i am willing to make such a sacrifice if Jesus told me to.
would you be willing to give me everything you have if i were to offer you 100 times what you think it's worth? read the whole account:

Mar 10:17-30 KJV
(17) And when he was gone forth into the way, there came one running, and kneeled to him, and asked him, Good Master, what shall I do that I may inherit eternal life?
(18) And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.
(19) Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Defraud not, Honour thy father and mother.
(20) And he answered and said unto him, Master, all these have I observed from my youth.
(21) Then Jesus beholding him loved him, and said unto him, One thing thou lackest: go thy way, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, take up the cross, and follow me.
(22) And he was sad at that saying, and went away grieved: for he had great possessions.
(23) And Jesus looked round about, and saith unto his disciples, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God!
(24) And the disciples were astonished at his words. But Jesus answereth again, and saith unto them, Children, how hard is it for them that trust in riches to enter into the kingdom of God!
(25) It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
(26) And they were astonished out of measure, saying among themselves, Who then can be saved?
(27) And Jesus looking upon them saith, With men it is impossible, but not with God: for with God all things are possible.
(28) Then Peter began to say unto him, Lo, we have left all, and have followed thee.
(29) And Jesus answered and said, Verily I say unto you, There is no man that hath left house, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my sake, and the gospel's,
(30) But he shall receive an hundredfold now in this time, houses, and brethren, and sisters, and mothers, and children, and lands, with persecutions; and in the world to come eternal life.
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This is the attitude every Christian should have:
Now the full number of those who believed were of one heart and soul, and no one said that any of the things that belonged to him was his own.
(Acts 4:32 ESV)

As believers we belong to Jesus and that means that everything we own belongs to him too. He is allowing us to use it for our own needs but we must be willing to give up anything when he asks us to do so.
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Mankind's future progress on inventions through science and technology should fire up our imaginations of what Christ's future-coming kingdom is like. Perfect clues are found in some of our most favourite inventions such as the television set, home computer, mobile phone that give magic or God-like supernatural performances and as we all know all of these things from wires to electronic components come from the soil:.
There are hidden supernatural secrets in the minerals, metals and chemicals from the very soil that God created and I believe that science and technology is heading towards God's sophisticated incredible supernatural science and technology known as "spirituality": the other hidden meaning to God's mysterious supernatural powers in Creation:.
For a moment there since becoming a Christian at 17 years old, the ancient holy bible had that old Greek mythological feeling to it and my thought theories about the kingdom of God turned out to be incredibly unsatisfying and depressing as I viewed God's kingdom as an ancient or non-futuristic city construction:.
It was only just a couple of years ago that I began to review my thoughts about the kingdom of God when I bought a full HD 50 inch plasma TV and bluray player, knowing that the entertainment home theater inventions do not remain the same as time moves forward, evolving into more sophistication and quality of picture and sound realism:.
I am totally convinced that God's kingdom is the most advanced community-built city in the universe with all the luxury design and architecture comfort that every wealthy enthusiast would want to live in, and when you compare our human contemporary inventions with God's supernatural inventions, it's like comparing our 21st century inventions to God's inventions that are light years ahead of our time .;'*';.
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The rich man Jesus was talking to was probably already saved. He told him if he wanted treasures in heaven he had to sell his stuff and give the money to the poor. Do you want treasures in heaven?
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