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Old 3rd September 2013, 04:39 AM
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praying in tongues aloud

The Bible says when we speak in tongues the Spirit gives the utterance. It also says if there is no interpreter at church to pray in tongues silently. This means the Spirit is in control of your tongue and your spirit is in control of the volume. Does the Spirit ignore this Bible verse? No but we do. I still believe it is the Spirit giving the utterance even when we are disobeying the Bible by being loud because the Spirit has grace. The only time we should hear tongues in church is when it is interpreted. Otherwise we need to turn the volume down.
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Speaking in tongues is the ability to speak in a foreign language for the purpose of spreading the gospel.

It isn't a bunch of hobbidy bobbidy boo that you utter to yourself.
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The Bible says when we speak in tongues the Spirit gives the utterance. It also says if there is no interpreter at church to pray in tongues silently. This means the Spirit is in control of your tongue and your spirit is in control of the volume. Does the Spirit ignore this Bible verse? No but we do. I still believe it is the Spirit giving the utterance even when we are disobeying the Bible by being loud because the Spirit has grace. The only time we should hear tongues in church is when it is interpreted. Otherwise we need to turn the volume down.
Yes, that is a proper interprestation, IMO, of what Paul is telling the Corinthians.
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Originally Posted by snumerouno View Post
Speaking in tongues is the ability to speak in a foreign language for the purpose of spreading the gospel.

It isn't a bunch of hobbidy bobbidy boo that you utter to yourself.
The tongues spoken of in 1 Corinthians are a language not known naturally in any culture. It's a different phenomenon from the tongues of Pentacost.
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"The Bible says when we speak in tongues the Spirit gives the utterance. It also says if there is no interpreter at church to pray in tongues silently. This means the Spirit is in control of your tongue and your spirit is in control of the volume."

Although the Gift, also carries it's own "Dynamics" when one is burdened to Speak a MESSAGE IN A TONGUE to the gathered congregation. What Paul is referring to is THAT eventuality, and NOT the more common speaking in tongues in times of corporate worship or prayer. When One is Burdened to Speak in a tongue as a "Message", then the Holy Spirit WILL ALSO BURDEN one to interpret.

To listen to Hyper-legalists, you'd think that "Being heard speaking in tongues" was a "Federal Offense".

You need to understand the "Out of control" circumstances in 1 Cor 14 to properly evaluate Paul's teaching.

YOU CANNOT deliver a "Message in a tongue" to the church "just because you feel like it", and can speak in tongues at will, like we Pentecostals mostly ALL can. Just like you can't deliver a PROPHETIC message to the church "just because you feel like it", and can speak English at will.

DUring times of Corporate Worship, or corporate prayer, "Being heard in a tongue", or (as in our place) being heard in Spanish, English, German, or Hindee, isn't an issue at all.
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I lean toward the interpretation of I Corinthians 14:28 of the speaker in tongues not speaking in church at all, and doing it at home or elsewhere.

If you are praying in tongues with low volume at church, you are still engaged in a one-on-one activity. It distracts you from hearing someone else pray, agreeing with that and saying 'amen.' It distracts you from hearing a prophecy or a teaching. How can you listen if you are praying in tongues with low volume? Church meetings are for mutual edification, not solely self-edifying activities that you can do in your own devotional time at home.
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Originally Posted by Bob Carabbio View Post
"The Bible says when we speak in tongues the Spirit gives the utterance. It also says if there is no interpreter at church to pray in tongues silently. This means the Spirit is in control of your tongue and your spirit is in control of the volume."

Although the Gift, also carries it's own "Dynamics" when one is burdened to Speak a MESSAGE IN A TONGUE to the gathered congregation. What Paul is referring to is THAT eventuality, and NOT the more common speaking in tongues in times of corporate worship or prayer. When One is Burdened to Speak in a tongue as a "Message", then the Holy Spirit WILL ALSO BURDEN one to interpret.

To listen to Hyper-legalists, you'd think that "Being heard speaking in tongues" was a "Federal Offense".

You need to understand the "Out of control" circumstances in 1 Cor 14 to properly evaluate Paul's teaching.

YOU CANNOT deliver a "Message in a tongue" to the church "just because you feel like it", and can speak in tongues at will, like we Pentecostals mostly ALL can. Just like you can't deliver a PROPHETIC message to the church "just because you feel like it", and can speak English at will.

DUring times of Corporate Worship, or corporate prayer, "Being heard in a tongue", or (as in our place) being heard in Spanish, English, German, or Hindee, isn't an issue at all.

Paul said unbelievers would think the church was crazy if everyone was prayin
in tongues aloud.
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Paul said unbelievers would think the church was crazy if everyone was prayin
in tongues aloud.
I have been in services where everybody is speaking in tongues... it IS crazy
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"Paul said unbelievers would think the church was crazy"

No biggie, y'all!! "People" think the "Church" is crazy anyway, and here in the U.S. it won't be long before they ALSO consider to be DANGEROUS as well.

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