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Old 27th August 2013, 08:57 PM
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To the gentlemen: When considering women's clothing, what is your stumbling block?

This question goes out to the all the guys out there and I would really appreciate, if you can help me out.

I don't have a problem with modesty per se, but I would like to know what type of clothing causes many of you guys to lust. I ask this because I'll be going through my closet soon, taking stuff out and trying to buy a better wardrobe and I want to keep my brothers in Christ in mind so I won't be a stumbling block for you. Even if you don't know me, I figured since guys are so visual, I can probably take your opinions into consideration and generalize it into the male community.

And if you wondering why I ask this in the general theology forum, it is because of the issue of modesty. God, in His infinite wisdom, gave us women great principles on the way of which we should dress

1 Timothy 2:9-10
9 likewise also that women should adorn themselves in respectable apparel, with modesty and self-control, not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly attire, 10 but with what is proper for women who profess godliness—with good works. 11
Proverbs 31:17
17 She dresses herself with strength
and makes her arms strong.
1 Peter 3:4
1 Peter 3:4
but let your adorning be the hidden person of the heart with the imperishable beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which in God's sight is very precious.
However there really aren't any "rules" or "standards" to go by with those verses, I don't know how to apply them to the actual clothing, so I was hoping if I can get a feel of what causes you guys to lust, I would know what to stay away from, within reason. --I'm not talking about that guy that is turned on by anything as long as the girl is walking and breathing.

Scripture on this subject matter would be absolutely appreciated.
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Old 27th August 2013, 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by daydreamergurl15 View Post
This question goes out to the all the guys out there and I would really appreciate, if you can help me out.

I don't have a problem with modesty per say, but I would like to know what type of clothing causes many of you guys to lust. I ask this because I'll be going through my closet soon, taking stuff out and trying to buy a better wardrobe and I want to keep my brothers in Christ in mind so I won't be a stumbling block for you. Even if you don't know me, I figured since guys are so visual, I can probably take your opinions into consideration and generalize it into the male community.

And if you wondering why I ask this in the general theology forum, it is because of the issue of modesty. God, in His infinite wisdom, gave us women great principles on the way of which we should dress

1 Timothy 2:9-10
9 likewise also that women should adorn themselves in respectable apparel, with modesty and self-control, not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly attire, 10 but with what is proper for women who profess godliness—with good works. 11
Proverbs 31:17
17 She dresses herself with strength
and makes her arms strong.
1 Peter 3:4
1 Peter 3:4
but let your adorning be the hidden person of the heart with the imperishable beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which in God's sight is very precious.
However there really aren't any "rules" or "standards" to go by with those verses, I don't know how to apply them to the actual clothing, so I was hoping if I can get a feel of what causes you guys to lust, I would know what to stay away from, within reason. --I'm not talking about that guy that is turned on by anything as long as the girl is walking and breathing.

Scripture on this subject matter would be absolutely appreciated.
Clothing is a hiding device also use to manipulate others. When a woman dresses in a way that shows her charms inviting others to want more it is sin and causes sin. I quit going to a church because women sitting on the platform would wear low necks and repeatedly bend over giving a view of more. It came to the point I couldn't focus and worship. It wouldn't matter to a blind man though.
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Old 28th August 2013, 12:32 AM
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This is an area that I think most men struggle with. I know I do.

I agree, it can be very distracting when the worship leader is wearing something too revealing. I've had to turn away from the stage, or close my eyes, because I couldn't focus on God.

In general, use common sense. Don't wear things that are too revealing or too tight.

I'd like to thank you for being considerate of your brothers in Christ. Thats a rare trait in today's society.
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This is a great question. I love what you're doing. So before I answer your question, I just wanted to point out that this is a two way street. A woman may be wearing something really revealing, but the guy is also looking. The reason I say this is because although you might be wearing something a teeny tiny bit tight, short, revealing, etc, it's on the guy to control himself a bit. Just don't overdo it

i honestly don't think there is anything wrong if you're wearing a form fitting pair of jeans (or pants/skirts in general) but if you can't bend over without worrying it'll tear, find a new pair. If you have to dance around for five minutes to close them... I'm sorry, those gotta go too.

Skirts: depends how tall you are, but you should have a very comfortable range of motion without revealing what Victoria's Secret really is. A little longer than mid-thigh is pretty safe I would say for most girls. Mid-thigh sometimes works, use your judgement.

Yoga pants/leggings/ whatever else they're called these days..... Leave those at home. Not for public. And no, wearing these doesn't mean you can wear a short skirt either.

Tops: if you don't want anyone to touch it, don't let them see it. This is honestly the one thing I'm super strict about. I know it's harder for some of you more fortunate ladies, but lets be real here, it's not impossible to cover them up. I know plenty of ladies that are probably larger than you and do a great job at covering up, and they still have some smokin dresses.

No matter what pants/skirt/shorts you're wearing, I shouldn't be able to tell you what color your underwear is. Nor should I be able to tell you what color your brassier is.

I hope I don't sound like I'm trying to make you dress like you came from the 3rd century, because I'm not. You're a girl, right? Don't you check out other girls (don't lie I see you people do it more than guys). Just look at other people and see what they're wearing and see how it makes them look

Also, I wanted to tell you again how much I love what you're doing here. Very admirable in a woman, and I can't stress this enough. (Are you learning from her, other ladies of the world? Because you should be!)
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Women's clothing only makes me stumble if my wife leaves them on the floor in the dark.
Come on guys. Are we really that easily distracted? I have noticed a visitor and new converts dressing inappropriate. But that's often because that's what they own. They usually learn and dress better later.
Perhaps we should practice looking people in the eye and not at their boobs?
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Originally Posted by daydreamergurl15 View Post
This question goes out to the all the guys out there and I would really appreciate, if you can help me out.

I don't have a problem with modesty per say, but I would like to know what type of clothing causes many of you guys to lust. I ask this because I'll be going through my closet soon, taking stuff out and trying to buy a better wardrobe and I want to keep my brothers in Christ in mind so I won't be a stumbling block for you. Even if you don't know me, I figured since guys are so visual, I can probably take your opinions into consideration and generalize it into the male community.

And if you wondering why I ask this in the general theology forum, it is because of the issue of modesty. God, in His infinite wisdom, gave us women great principles on the way of which we should dress

1 Timothy 2:9-10
9 likewise also that women should adorn themselves in respectable apparel, with modesty and self-control, not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly attire, 10 but with what is proper for women who profess godliness—with good works. 11
Proverbs 31:17
17 She dresses herself with strength
and makes her arms strong.
1 Peter 3:4
1 Peter 3:4
but let your adorning be the hidden person of the heart with the imperishable beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which in God's sight is very precious.
However there really aren't any "rules" or "standards" to go by with those verses, I don't know how to apply them to the actual clothing, so I was hoping if I can get a feel of what causes you guys to lust, I would know what to stay away from, within reason. --I'm not talking about that guy that is turned on by anything as long as the girl is walking and breathing.

Scripture on this subject matter would be absolutely appreciated.
I've found when what is worn directs my eyes to a woman's "energy centres" or chakras . sometimes my head gets stuck in there for a little while . but i'm getting better at disconnecting immediately . it's an empathy thing . i don't think its the same for everyone .
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Originally Posted by daydreamergurl15 View Post
This question goes out to the all the guys out there and I would really appreciate, if you can help me out.

I don't have a problem with modesty per say, but I would like to know what type of clothing causes many of you guys to lust. I ask this because I'll be going through my closet soon, taking stuff out and trying to buy a better wardrobe and I want to keep my brothers in Christ in mind so I won't be a stumbling block for you. Even if you don't know me, I figured since guys are so visual, I can probably take your opinions into consideration and generalize it into the male community.

And if you wondering why I ask this in the general theology forum, it is because of the issue of modesty. God, in His infinite wisdom, gave us women great principles on the way of which we should dress

1 Timothy 2:9-10
9 likewise also that women should adorn themselves in respectable apparel, with modesty and self-control, not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly attire, 10 but with what is proper for women who profess godliness—with good works. 11
Proverbs 31:17
17 She dresses herself with strength
and makes her arms strong.
1 Peter 3:4
1 Peter 3:4
but let your adorning be the hidden person of the heart with the imperishable beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which in God's sight is very precious.
However there really aren't any "rules" or "standards" to go by with those verses, I don't know how to apply them to the actual clothing, so I was hoping if I can get a feel of what causes you guys to lust, I would know what to stay away from, within reason. --I'm not talking about that guy that is turned on by anything as long as the girl is walking and breathing.

Scripture on this subject matter would be absolutely appreciated.
If I may, I'm guessing you already know there's only so much you can do to help a brother to keep his mind pure. Some men are without help and will lust after a woman dressed in a cardboard box. I think modesty is equal to wearing something not meant to bring attention to yourself. Because all women are shapped differently, what may not be modest for one could be modest for the other and vice versa.

If a man is struggling with lust, no amount of clothing in the world will keep him from imagining what he shouldn't. I'd say use your best judgment and pray about it. God has the best answer to this question for you.
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If I may, I'm guessing you already know there's only so much you can do to help a brother to keep his mind pure. Some men are without help and will lust after a woman dressed in a cardboard box. I think modesty is equal to wearing something not meant to bring attention to yourself. Because all women are shapped differently, what may not be modest for one could be modest for the other and vice versa.

If a man is struggling with lust, no amount of clothing in the world will keep him from imagining what he shouldn't. I'd say use your best judgment and pray about it. God has the best answer to this question for you.
Good post Stryder.
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I've found when what is worn directs my eyes to a woman's "energy centres" or chakras . sometimes my head gets stuck in there for a little while .... .
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