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Unread 13th June 2013, 10:22 AM
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is Hillsong really a cult?

I heard so many bad things about them, but I love their worship.
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Unread 13th June 2013, 09:56 PM
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why are folk so swift to "receive" evil report and so unwilling to accept good report ?
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I think it has its roots into the new apostolic reformation movement which is not a good thing

as to whether its a cult?

I would say be careful
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Well, put it this way... I don't like their selling God for dollars practice. It's almost like what my denomination used to do centuries ago. Every second time God is mentioned ask for money. Want your sins to be forgiven give us money. God will show you he loves you by making you rich. Then sell a whole bunch of merchandise as well that I sincerely doubt all goes to the poor. It's almost like the temple markets Jesus made a stand against.
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why are folk so swift to "receive" evil report and so unwilling to accept good report ?
why are you so swift to judge others instead of reading my question carefully?
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Yes. Hillsong Church Watch

Before all the reflex ''you're judgemental blah blah...." responses read it for yourself. It is an *objective* information resource offensive to only Charismaniacs (if it feels good it must be from God, don't question the source of those feelings) NOT truth-seekers.
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Before anyone sings a supposedly Christian song, test the lyrics if it doesn't comes against the Truth....

....If it does, don't sing it even if everyone does in the church even if it angers the persons beside you or the pastor. We should rather anger people than God!

Many Christian songs today doesn't stand the test of Truth they are self-centered in most cases as if God is supposed to be our divine servant, to answer all our wishes and to make us happy rather than the other way around. It disturbs me to see that while God may indeed do those things, why keep repeating it over and over in songs....

...Imagine you're an owner of a business and you have people who works for you. Imagine how would you feel if all of your workers sing weekly or daily to give them their salary, knowing you give them every fortnights anyways. Sounds annoying doesn't it?? I'll probably ask them to stop doing it or find another employer to annoy.

Applies also to songs:

Matthew 6:7-8
And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. 8 Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.
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Originally Posted by joey_downunder View Post
Yes. Hillsong Church Watch

Before all the reflex ''you're judgemental blah blah...." responses read it for yourself. It is an *objective* information resource offensive to only Charismaniacs (if it feels good it must be from God, don't question the source of those feelings) NOT truth-seekers.
Not agreeing with a churches teaching doesn't make it a cult. I don't agree with Catholic teaching, but I don't for a second think they're a cult.

For the record, a cult church or group is typified by a belief that their (and only their) teaching is right, by pressure for members to leave their family to live with other church memebers and pressure to exclude those who don't belong to the church or not associate with non members.. Hillsong fails all these tests ( as opposed to say Jehovas Witnesses or Scientologists)

As for the blog, objective isn't a word I'd use to describe an anonymous blog that posts Boy George videos as editorial comment, spends pages talking about a book that Brian Houston retracted years ago, and appears to have some seriously judgemental, not to mention mysoginistic members (one of whom appears to be the author, though we don't know because he's anonymous).

And no, I don't particularly like Brian's teaching either.....
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I personally don't think they are. I love their music as well.
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some ones a little touchy lol

truth be told imo they have some wonderful songs - very inspiring
and they have many songs that are quite bland and same same .

a cult ? no i dont think so

and what is the " new apostolic reformation " someone mentioned .
i better go read that church watch article i guess .

and @ forever trying ..sadly said denomination has only changed tactics in the west. in the Philippines ( from 1st hand experience) you don't get help from that group nor blessing without handing over the customary offering of money $$ first. its a big world and what a denomination in one nation does can differ vastly from what it does in another nation .
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