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3rd January 2013, 09:22 AM
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Reps: 2,077,156,217,909,144,832 (power: 2,077,156,217,909,207) | | | Spend spend spend Obviously the great recession [aka depression to be honest] means little when one is a drunk sailor who is in office.
Hawaii Reporter takes a look at the cost to taxpayers and concludes this year's trip is more expensive than previous trips: [T]he advanced trip and the cost that comes with it – as much as $100,000 (flight and security) – adds to an already expensive vacation for the taxpayers.
Hawaii Reporter research shows the total cost for the President’s visit for taxpayers far exceeded $1.5 million in 2010 – but is even more costly this year because he extended his vacation by three days and the cost for Air Force One travel has jumped since last assessed in 2000. In addition, Hawaii Reporter was able to obtain more specifics about the executive expenditures.
The total cost (based on what is known) for the 17-day vacation round trip vacation to Hawaii for the President, his family and staff has climbed to more than $4 million. First Lady Michelle Obama's decision to leave a few days early without her husband will cost more than $100,000.. President Obama's vacation cost is the buzz in Oahu - POLITICO.com
EVEN Republican Senators want to rescind his pay raises...
Washington – Alaska's senators are joining a growing group of lawmakers urging President Obama to rescind a recent executive order granting pay increases to Congress and other federal officials, saying the move doesn't jibe with the country's debt crisis.
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Obama signed an executive order last week that will lift a ban on pay freezes for federal employees.
Rank-and-file members of Congress would all see a $900 bump next year -- up from $174,000. Congressional leaders will receive a slightly higher raise, with the House speaker receiving a $1,100 salary increase to $224,600. The top two Senate leaders will see pay rise $1,000, to $194,400. Adding Biden also got a pay increase.
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For a lucky few with the right political connections, the “fiscal cliff” presented an opportunity to take flight upon pork-encrusted wings. The bill, which no one in the House of Representatives had time to read before voting on it, was packed with juicy special-interest tax breaks and subsidies.
Why not get the party started with a little federally-subsidized rum? $222 million worth, to be precise. The wonderful exercise in fiscal restraint that emanated from the Senate included an extension of excise taxes – which would, technically, be a tax on the middle class, as many of them drink rum. The bulk of the money from these taxes is remitted to Puerto Rico.
...read more Fiscal cliff payoffs | Conservative News, Views & Books
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3rd January 2013, 09:59 AM
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Reps: 169,541,243,037,104,576 (power: 169,541,243,037,111) | | | We know with the American people (and the majority of American Catholics) having twice elected President Obama, the Right-Wing has given up on fair, democratic elections. Their agenda now is to remove President Obama from office but cutting back on his security detail and hoping for something decent people find almost unthinkable.
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3rd January 2013, 11:38 AM
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Reps: 760,814,574,992,475,520 (power: 760,814,574,992,503) | | | Yes, I know they are "high spenders". (I was aghast that Obama told Jay Leno that he doesn't even know what our debt is and I couldn't even believe that he signed an executive order to raise the salaries of Congress--glad the House shot that down!) Still I think he's raised it 3Trillion now.
Oh well, heard that 77% of you guys will be paying more in taxes because of the fiscal cliff deal--and that doesn't even count for all the taxes that are in Obamacare that you will be having.
In two months there are going to be talks on the debt ceiling. I'm going on record right now as saying that Obama is going to unConstitutionally try to use the 14th Amendment to unilaterally raise the debt ceiling without Congress' agreement. (I think I saw a hint of that plan in his "spiking the football" speech after he got all those taxes.) It's going to be interesting if it turns out to be so.
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3rd January 2013, 01:21 PM
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Reps: 107,550,195,698,414,560 (power: 107,550,195,698,422) | | | My taxes went up a bit, but fortunately I'm ok with that. I don't believe the ACA will have any effect on my take home pay though. How about you? Did you see a tax increase in your paycheck?
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3rd January 2013, 02:17 PM
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Reps: 550,209,461,662,961,920 (power: 550,209,461,662,988) | | | If they want to cut down on expensive security details--and make the country safer for the rest of us, then they can pass Senator Dianne Feinstein's assault weapons ban, a bill she will introduce on the first day Congress goes back into session--with a House and Senate that will be more receptive to such a proposal.
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3rd January 2013, 02:22 PM
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Reps: 550,209,461,662,961,920 (power: 550,209,461,662,988) | | | We won't get our 2013 paychecks until next week.
We are affected by the lower amount you can put into Flexible Spending Accounts--down to $2500. We used to set aside $4000 for three of us (yes, we didn't have the world's most lavish insurance plans, and two of us are over 60).
We will be affected by the end of the payroll tax holiday. Since my hubby is over the maximum, it will cost him $2240 a year--and it will cost me 2% of my salary.
Since he is retiring at the end of the year, it doesn't matter to me that much. At that point, I will be the only person on salary (he is planning on starting a small business in an area he's dabbled in with some success, and we'll have to see how that goes).
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3rd January 2013, 04:51 PM
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Reps: 760,814,574,992,475,520 (power: 760,814,574,992,503) | | | Overheard a receptionist I know discussing her salary yesterday. Her salary was reduced $20.00 just with the Medicare increases--and that's not including the other 1% or 2% expiring tax cut (which *wasn't* considered in this deal) and other reductions which will also cut into her "bring home" pay. And of course, there's the tax that she'll have to pay should she not have health insurance and the fact that the only way around it is for employers to make their employees part-time workers. She's definitely not a "happy camper". And neither is a friend of mine who recently learned that *if* she's able to sell her house, Obamacare will claim 3.8% of the selling price.
Truth be known, nothing has been solved. We are still on our way to becoming Greece. Our only hope was to "tighten our belts" but today's pampered politicians seem to have no idea how to have a solvent country. Only time will tell if we see a fourth credit downgrade because we have not cut spending as the credit agencies told us to do.
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3rd January 2013, 05:55 PM
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Reps: 2,077,156,217,909,144,832 (power: 2,077,156,217,909,207) | | | It figures Obama doesnt know the debt.
Like i said - he spends like a drunk sailor. Drunks usually dont know or care what money they have - its gonna be spent.
The problem really is - Obama is spending our money like its his.
Thankfully - i was astute and didnt vote for him...and listened to the Bishops.
O that's just absolutely wonderful - he can take 3.8% of a selling price of one's property.
Hey - this all smacks the face of the Popes who warned us. I wouldnt even take the blame of voting for him if i were anyone. He may have been voted in - but according to a Holocaust survivor from Austria - they voted for Hitler too.
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3rd January 2013, 07:05 PM
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Maybe some rum will make this deal go down better.
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3rd January 2013, 08:41 PM
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