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Originally Posted by Jipsah View Post
Yeah, I noted that you don't like it. So, do you reckon that the prophecy about sacrifice ceasing wasn't fulfilled, or that the fulfillment somehow didn't count? Gotta be one or the other, 'cause sacrifice hasn't been happening for a couple thousand years odd. So which is it? Which does you doctrine require you to do, deny historical fact, or deny the validity of that fact? Seems like Hobson's choice to me, since either way your doctrine requires to to either try and weasel around reality or deny it altogether.

Yeah, I noted that date-setters and their ilk are pretty free with flinging out anathemas. They're not too good at getting their dates right, though.
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Yeshua said we are to Watch....There is coming a Day when the Watchman of Ephraim will say Let us go up to Tzion to Yahuwah Eloheynu

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All the Moedims will be kept during the millennium including Pesach.

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The Altar has already been built in Israel, to resume the daily sacrifice...

Not required, a stone temple...

Everything is ready to go, a pro-Temple and Torah Jewish Homeland party is rising fast in Israel's government.

For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth.

Watch you therefore, and pray always, that you may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man. Luke 21:35-36

When the gathering together to Him comes the wise will not be able to share with the foolish and it will be to late for them to understand...His people perish for lack of knowledge...

Will never hold my peace, Day or Night, until YAHUWAH makes Yerushalayim a praise in all the Earth.

Will not say, all things remain the same since the fathers fell asleep, where is this promise of His Coming...when they have not.

Watching, if you have a problem with the interpretation and find a error point it out...but first take off the preterist glasses...I was careful not to say these are YHWH's dates, but they are no doubt worthy of consideration....better to sound the alarm, than keep silent.

The following verse is not Speaking of Yeshua

And he shall strengthen a covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease Dan 9:27

Will happen, has happened as with Antiochus Epiphanies, when you see, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, Flee

We are in that week, a snare upon the whole earth.

when they say peace and safety, sudden destruction
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Originally Posted by wordsoflife View Post
Yep, you're a partial preterist.
To start with, I apologize for yelling. But I don't like being accused of being a preterist.

How exactly can I be a partial preterist? Please explain.

A preterist is someone who believes that Biblical end-times prophecy has already been fulfilled. The temple being destroyed in 70 A.D. is not end-times prophecy, so knowing that it happened is not preterism.

Also, Jipsah said that I had "the decency to admit" that the temple was destroyed in 70 A.D. Excuse me, but that is not "admitting" anything. That is a historical fact. It does not make me a preterist. It would make me a preterist if I said that it was the fulfillment of end-times prophecy, but I didn't. Therefore, you guessed it (or not), I am not a preterist.
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Little children, it is the last time: and as you have heard that the anti-christ shall come... 1 Jo 2:18

The definite article is in the Greek text. ὅτι ἀντίχριστος

....and the people of the ruler (anti-christ) that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary... Dan 9:26

On the 9th of Av 70 AD, the 10th legion under Titus's command destroyed the Second Temple > The First Temple was destroyed on the 9th of Av 586 BC

The 10th legions soldiers were ethnic Syrian conscripts into the Roman military.

The people of the ruler that shall come <> Did destroy the City and the Temple

The Roman Empire - the 4th Beast Empire Destroyed Jerusalem and the Temple as written

There is an arch in Rome til this day that commemorates Titus' capture and destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD, sculpted stone showing all the Temple instruments being carried away from Jerusalem..

Now there are two Identifiers of who the ruler to come could possibly be...of the Roman Empire the 4th beast, Syrian

From the Roman Empire and Syrian > City (Empire) and Sanctuary (Syrian) was destroyed

The USA uprooted three kings that arose from the collapse of the Roman Empire

England- Revolutionary War

France- Louisiana Purchase

Spain- Spanish American War

And the ten horns out of this kingdom (Roman Empire) are ten kings that shall arise(Ten did): and another (USA) shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings. Dan 7:24

Diverse > The USA is Diverse, The Land

'he' in vs 24 is speaking of the diverse nation in the masculine, compare Dan 7:7-8, 20 > ....in this horn( nation) were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things. 7:8

In the Nation that uproots Three comes the Big Mouthed Narcissist

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Syrian heritage

8,000 Beduin stake their claim as the lost tribe of Barack Obama

A sheikh in Galilee says he has evidence that he and his family are linked by blood to the new President


“We hope to God that Obama will solve the problem of Ghajar,” said Sheikh Issam al-Khalil, a leading citizen of the divided town, whose residents mostly speak Hebrew and Arabic but many of whom consider themselves as originally Syrian. Reference Times UK, Subscription

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telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/barackobama/3450138/Bedouin-tribe-claims-blood-link-to-Barack-Obama.html

And it just so happens that bho's birthday is on the Day retro calculated to the destruction of the second temple.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_4 Destruction Second Temple - Birthday: bho-given a prize. Rev 6:2

Syrian heritage and is from the nation that uprooted three, born on the day that the second Temple was destroyed....where am i making this up?

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Yep, you're a partial preterist.
Then, by all means, read my post again.
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The apostles, or ours?

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The Big Mouth Narcissist trying to sway the outcome of Israel's election in one week, It comes out today as always that he is Fighting Against Jerusalem and the House of Judah > and their Elohiym given right to the Land that He gave to them to build their Homes.

Obama says, No you can not build, speaking great Words against the Most High, The Elohiym of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob

All the nations that burden themselves against Jerusalem are Fighting against The Almighty and His Anointed One and will be Judged severely.

Obama is the chief ringleader of the nations coming against Judah in order to enforce the Covenant of Death

PM Unshaken by Obama's Criticisms

Sources close to Binyamin Netanyahu said Tuesday that the Prime Minister would remain solid in his policies, especially regarding Israel's determination not to return to the 1948 armistice lines, despite the comments President Barack H. Obama reputedly made. The comments, published Tuesday by The Atlantic magazine, have Obama slamming Israeli decisions to build in Judea and Samaria. “Israel doesn't know what its own best interests are,” Obama is quoted as saying by author Jeff Goldberg. “With each new settlement announcement, in Obama's view, Netanyahu is moving his country down a path toward near-total isolation,” Goldberg writes.

Sources: PM Unshaken by Obama's Criticisms - Defense/Security - News - Israel National News

Obama's True Colors

Lets not forget Obama, who on his way to transforming America, has succeeded in making the Democratic Party, a political party that no longer believes in Israel's right to self-defense, nor that Israel is still America's strongest ally in the region, nor that Jerusalem is and will remain the Capital of Israel.

Obama's True Colors - Op-Eds - Israel National News

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The apostles, or ours?

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"End-times", "The End of Days", "The End of the Age", "The Time of Jacob's Trouble" and "The Great Tribulation". These are all terms used to reference the end of life as we know it just before the reign of Yeshua HaMashiach (Jesus the Messiah) begins (That is, the Millennium).
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Currently a lot is being made on online message boards of reports coming from Chinese media outlining new orders for 2013 which apply to all branches of the People’s Liberation Army. Some Japanese media outlets have been interpreting these orders as “prepare for war…

According to the Chinese military’s news source, PLA Daily documents dated 14 January lay out the goals for this year. These goals include “making firm preparations for war” and “increase the strictness and difficulty of all troops’ training to match combat conditions.”

China€™s €œPrepare for War€ Orders Unsettling in[bless and do not curse]Japan | RocketNews24

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The Red Horse of War

Judah was prophesied to return to their homes first in the last days, the House of David, and then All the nations would come against them to Part His Land by a Vote.

That is Exactly what happened on 11/29/2012

The Vote: the Red Horse of War – Peace taken from the earth… Revelation 6:4

For, behold, in those days, and in that time, when I shall bring again the captivity of Judah and Jerusalem, Joel 3:1

I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of YAH Judges, and will plead with them there for My people and for My heritage Yisrael, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted My Land. 3:2

The children also of Judah and the children of Jerusalem have you sold unto the Greeks, that you might remove them far from their border. Joel 3:6

Greeks, origin democracy, to decide by a Vote

The UN Voted to Part His Land on 11/29/2012, the siege against Jerusalem has begun

YAH Judges

Proclaim you this among the Nations; Prepare war, wake up the mighty men, let all the men of war draw near; let them come up: Joel 3:9

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YHWH also shall save the dwellings of Judah first, that the glory of the house of David and the glory of the inhabitants of Jerusalem do not magnify themselves against Judah. Zech 12:7

And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem,….. And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon Aleph – Taw whom they have pierced, Zech 12:10
http://theextinctionprotocol.wordpre...r-commodities/

Is China preparing for war or catastrophe? Mysteriously stockpiles rice and other commodities.

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Joel 3:9 Proclaim ye this among the gentiles; prepare war =121 wake up the mighty men, let all the men of war draw near; let them come up: = 1122 ` Joel Three – Nine = 140

Xi Jinping = 112

PLA - People's Liberation Army > Zhōnggu Rnmn Jiěfngjūn = 212
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Rev 6:3 and when He had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast = 140 say, come and see. = 598

President China > Hu Jintao = 98

112+98 = 210

China tells army to prepare for war in 2013 - www.phayul.com

The directives have been issued just months after Xi Jinping took over as the PLA commander-in-chief from Hu Jintao.

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