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Old 11th December 2012, 02:32 PM
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Does belief in the afterlife diminish man?

It is commonly asserted, especially among atheists, that belief in an afterlife cools one’s enthusiasms for this life on earth. This God-centered or theocentric view allegedly prevents human beings from truly being themselves and living up to their full potential. As a consequence, they fail to appreciate fully the richness and rewards of this world.

Does belief in the afterlife diminish man?
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Old 11th December 2012, 02:37 PM
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I suppose a mouse in the cage makes more of his life, than one that lives open and free?
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Old 11th December 2012, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Michie View Post
It is commonly asserted, especially among atheists, that belief in an afterlife cools one’s enthusiasms for this life on earth. This God-centered or theocentric view allegedly prevents human beings from truly being themselves and living up to their full potential. As a consequence, they fail to appreciate fully the richness and rewards of this world.

Does belief in the afterlife diminish man?
Huh? ".....cools one's enthusiasms..." Sorry atheists, it does just the opposite.
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Old 11th December 2012, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by AvilaSurfer View Post
Huh? ".....cools one's enthusiasms..." Sorry atheists, it does just the opposite.
What I thought as well.
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Old 11th December 2012, 02:55 PM
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I suppose a mouse in the cage makes more of his life, than one that lives open and free?
Are you implying the Christian belief in the afterlife cages a person?
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Old 11th December 2012, 02:59 PM
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It diminishes man in that it should put his earthly life in perspective and make him more humble. A diminution that is IMO beneficial.
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Does belief in the afterlife diminish man?


If I may:

I believe that it may well do just that.

From the article
Orthodox Christianity teaches that there is continuity between this life and the next. A true Christian does not think of himself as someone standing at a bus stop and doing nothing more than waiting for the bus (that will take him to heaven). He understands that what he does in this life determines his reward in the next. If we are faithful to the commandment to love God, ourselves, and our neighbors, that love will secure our place in heaven.
This is both a statement for and against that statement. I would submit that while there is a continuity between this life and the next it is just that continuity this is used to justify just about every injustice known to man.

This, I think, is the view of people who claim that man is diminished by believe in an afterlife.
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Old 12th December 2012, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Michie View Post
Are you implying the Christian belief in the afterlife cages a person?

Why would you jump to that conclusion?

Quite the opposite. I have never been more free.
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Old 12th December 2012, 06:25 PM
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I've never heard an atheist say such a thing.
Though obviously, it rings true with certain specific beliefs for certain peoples, but i'd rather not drag this thread off topic.
I wouldn't say "diminished" mind you.
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