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Originally Posted by DrkSdBls View Post
Shoot. If Texas was to Secede, it would probably be the Best thing for America.

After America was to Take back all the Military and Financial Support that it provides Texas on a Yearly basis, it would go a long way to help balance our Deficit. Thinking of all the Texans who would relinquish their Claim of Federal Benefits by denouncing their Citizenship would make Medicare Solvent for 60 years.

And that's assuming if Texas would remain whole. I could see it dissolving in 50 years, it's northern part being reabsorbed into the Union (possibly being added to Oklahoma and New Mexico) and the southern half being taken by Mexico.


While we're at it, we can Sell Alaska to Canada and that'd probably wipe out our Debt completely! Shoot, Alaskans are pretty much Canadians already. We'd just be finishing the job. Hey! Maybe we can Trade Alaska for Quebec!


Everyone wants to jump ship when times are bad.
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Originally Posted by miniverchivi View Post



Every red state has a path to TX, LA, MS, AL...access to the gulf of Mexico. With the exception of Alaska, but they're already isolated for most part right now with their own ports.

It's the blue states that would be in trouble, they're detached...a person in Cali couldn't ship something to Michigan without crossing red.
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I'm not certain why people keep confusing the word 'county' with the word 'state'. This isn't that difficult.
Interesting. Mabye a new development in the ways commerce is done and negotiations?
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Originally Posted by Easy G (G) View Post
The Highway system is indeed so vast that trying to reshape it (although necessary in line with legal principle of border checks for differing countries) would be a huge task in/of itself...as the Eisenhower Interstate Highway System is so extensive one would wonder how in the world are borders going to be made that could effectively manage what he set up....and how to divide up something and ensure that all people in the U.S benefit from it. With multiple differing nations present in the U.S if secession developed, all would be seeking to take ownership of the system - with the others who didn't secede feeling the burn from it if other new nations decided to make travel/access more difficult than necessary....unless people decided to go back to using highway routes that were present before the Federally funded interstate was developed (which would take LONGer for others - and even then, patrol/securtiy development would need to be increased for principles to be honored).
Actually, The Secessionists don't want anything Federally Pay for anyway so......

No Highways, No Post Service, no Internet, etc....

Yeah, I can't wait til Texas Bails out on America, only to realize that they no longer have Access to their Email. Or to Check their Porn!
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Originally Posted by DrkSdBls View Post
Actually, The Secessionists don't want anything Federally Pay for anyway so......

No Highways, No Post Service, no Internet, etc....
That's the point. Even in asking for nothing federally paid for, there are benefits people don't really consider will go away that are taken for granted - from nice development of roads/infrastructure and proper interstates to the use of the Postal Service system/mail and many other things. And the harm it'd do to others who DIDN'T secede and had to work around their new countries just to get things through would be a problem - on top of the failing infranstructre the new countries would have to deal with.



Yeah, I can't wait til Texas Bails out on America, only to realize that they no longer have Access to their Email. Or to Check their Porn!
God forbid they even remain concerned with pornagraphy - already destructive enough to the country on multiple levels. Human trafficking (fueled by porn) is enough of an issue - and Texas alongside others will need to address how to keep traffickers benefiting from the XXX industry out of the areas without more federal help.
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Actually, The Secessionists don't want anything Federally Pay for anyway
Then again - if choosing to become like Puerto Rico was as a commonwealth, there'd still be payments from the federal government - except with less representation.
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Originally Posted by usexpat97 View Post
I think I might prefer no infrastructure over a corrupt one.
One would think that corruption can be found with or without infrastructure - with the option for no infrastructure being mob rule.
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All over the United States, movements for states/regions to leave the Union have become increasingly popular. It seems like these movements are becoming more and more mainstream.

Rebel Yell: 700,000 Americans sign secession petitions to White House - YouTube

Not only are these movements gaining popularity in the South, but also right in the heart of New England.

Second Vermont Republic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I was wondering what everyone thought about this issue.
Even if it were allowed politically, it would be an administrative "nightmare"

Small pockets of successionists would constitute a continuous "revolving door" of individuals opting in or out to the Union depending on the results of federal, state and municipal elections at any given time.
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Originally Posted by DrkSdBls
Actually, The Secessionists don't want anything Federally Pay for anyway so......

No Highways, No Post Service, no Internet, etc....
Plenty of people outside of the US manage to have all of those things...

Nothing is "federally paid for" as it is, anyway. The money all comes from the states.
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Originally Posted by usexpat97 View Post
I think I might prefer no infrastructure over a corrupt one.
See: Hamilton quote in signature.
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