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20th November 2012, 02:59 PM
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Why Christianity is real:
-Evolution is logically impossible because nothing good can be caused by explosions.If I would put a dynamite in a car, would there be many small car-toys? No, it will blow into pieces.
-And if the Big Bang, the planet or star, whatever, exploded, all planets would have a similar look and materials as it. If it exploded, then how water came? It spawned? Or something? The Sun, has more then 90% hydrogen and helium, while the Earth has less then 1%. If it all comes from the same thing, then it would be similar, but it isn't.
-The evolution is just a theory, but in the Bible we read that Christianity is real.It's just a thinking of a single man.
-The evolution theory violates the second law of Thermodynamics, which states "Things are getting older, loosing their potential over time". But in evolution, species mutate to better species, which VIOLATES, IT, while in the Bible we read that Earth will be destroyed, which confirms it.
-From where Big Bang came? What created it? Something must create something, but in evolution, it is beyond belief...
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20th November 2012, 03:02 PM
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20th November 2012, 03:49 PM
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-Evolution is logically impossible because nothing good can be caused by explosions.If I would put a dynamite in a car, would there be many small car-toys? No, it will blow into pieces.
-And if the Big Bang, the planet or star, whatever, exploded, all planets would have a similar look and materials as it. If it exploded, then how water came? It spawned? Or something? The Sun, has more then 90% hydrogen and helium, while the Earth has less then 1%. If it all comes from the same thing, then it would be similar, but it isn't.
-The evolution is just a theory, but in the Bible we read that Christianity is real.It's just a thinking of a single man.
-The evolution theory violates the second law of Thermodynamics, which states "Things are getting older, loosing their potential over time". But in evolution, species mutate to better species, which VIOLATES, IT, while in the Bible we read that Earth will be destroyed, which confirms it.
-From where Big Bang came? What created it? Something must create something, but in evolution, it is beyond belief...
Please don't confuse Biblical Theology with these infamous pseudo-science claims of some of the more extreme young earth creationist cult leaders. It only serves to taint the teachings of Jesus with a lot of nonsense which cannot be found in the Bible. Those who have actually opened a science textbook can explain to you that the Big Bang Theory has nothing to do with the theory of evolution and the Laws of Thermodynamics refer to HEAT ENGINES and say nothing about mutations and the diversification of life forms. You are simply perpetuating silly myths which insult the intelligence of thinking Christians.
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20th November 2012, 03:54 PM
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None of your arguments actually show Christianity is real. Originally Posted by Milan45 -Evolution is logically impossible because nothing good can be caused by explosions.If I would put a dynamite in a car, would there be many small car-toys? No, it will blow into pieces.
1) Evolution isn't an explosion, so it doesn't matter if explosions cause good things or not.
2) Explosions can, in fact, cause good things: 
Did you know these were carved with dynamite? Originally Posted by Milan45 -And if the Big Bang, the planet or star, whatever, exploded, all planets would have a similar look and materials as it. If it exploded, then how water came? It spawned? Or something? The Sun, has more then 90% hydrogen and helium, while the Earth has less then 1%. If it all comes from the same thing, then it would be similar, but it isn't.
The solar system coalesced from the primordial dust cloud, filled with a myriad of elements - chiefly hydrogen, but also heavier elements. These elements did different things, due to their different masses and chemical properties. The end result is groups of rocky lumps - planets, moons, asteroids - and gaseous lumps - the gas giants, the Sun, etc.
In other words, it's simply incorrect that they should all be similar. Originally Posted by Milan45 -The evolution is just a theory, but in the Bible we read that Christianity is real.It's just a thinking of a single man.
Evolution is indeed just a theory, as is the chemical theory that says atoms exist, as is the biological theory that says germs cause disease.
The Bible does indeed say that Christianity is true, just as the Qu'ran says Islam is true. Originally Posted by Milan45 -The evolution theory violates the second law of Thermodynamics, which states "Things are getting older, loosing their potential over time". But in evolution, species mutate to better species, which VIOLATES, IT, while in the Bible we read that Earth will be destroyed, which confirms it.
The second law of thermodynamics says that the entropy of a closed system tends to a maximum. Entropy has a very precise thermodynamic meaning, which Creationists often overlook in their attempt to justify their religion. Originally Posted by Milan45 -From where Big Bang came? What created it? Something must create something, but in evolution, it is beyond belief...
The cause of the Big Bang is unrelated to evolution. Whether it's a natural phenomenon, or the action of the Hindu God Krishna, or something else entirely, has absolutely no bearing on the veracity of the theory of evolution.
As it happens, we do not know what caused the Big Bang, if it had a cause, or if it was the beginning of the universe.
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You've adopted the myth that the Big Bang was some sort of chemical or atomic explosion. It was an EXPANSION of space-time itself. But even if it WAS a conventional explosion, your reasoning about the components of planets vs. stars is inane. Please educate yourself before trolling. (Using your logic, I could deny the existence of popcorn because you reasoned that an explosion couldn't reduce some objects to dust while popcorn seeds because big white, edible fluffy puffs.)
I assume you are trolling in an effort to parody science-illiterates who repeat what they read on silly websites. But those of us who are Bible-affirming Christians do not appreciate this kind of science-denying ridicule. Please take your mockery of the Bible elsewhere.
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Please stop with your empty words and .....okay okay anyway God is real 
What could you loose from being a Christian? Nothing. What can you loose from being an atheist? Everything.
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20th November 2012, 04:23 PM
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On top of all of the science fail in the opening post, we now get Pascal's Wager. Pascal's Wager - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
What if we were created by a deity who purposefully hid from us and expected us to use Reason. Only those who became atheists because of Reason will be allowed to pass into the afterlife. It seems that you have much to lose by believing in the wrong gods.
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Allegedly. Originally Posted by Milan45 Please stop with your empty words and .....okay okay anyway God is real
Allegedly. Originally Posted by Milan45 What could you loose from being a Christian? Nothing.
If Islam is true, you go to Hell. So... why should I take that risk? Originally Posted by Milan45 What can you loose from being an atheist? Everything.
Or maybe the afterlife is based on morality - good people go to Heaven, bad people go to Hell. Or maybe the afterlife is base on piety - atheists go to Heaven, theists go to Hell.
I don't know, and neither do you. Originally Posted by Milan45 I'm off. See ya [maybe].
Ah, hit and run. Tell me, do you really believe the arguments you laid forth in the OP?
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Please stop with your empty words and .....okay okay anyway God is real
What could you loose from being a Christian? Nothing. What can you loose from being an atheist? Everything.
I'm off. See ya [maybe].
Posting lies represents the ultimate in "empty words". The 9th Commandment prohibits a false witness.
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