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Old 7th November 2012, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by dad View Post
I noticed that freedom was a central issue in his letter. The Gestapo tactics of the godless Inquisitors, making it illegal to be a believer basically in the US.

Hopefully, now that they voted there for an ungodly leader, (openly anti bible policies) and blaspemy, no one in their right mind expects anything but oppression and darkness anymore there. The US is the enemy of God now.
You haven't taken your meds yet today, have you?
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You haven't taken your meds yet today, have you?
I think he just lives in Washington or Colorado.
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Old 7th November 2012, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by dad View Post
I noticed that freedom was a central issue in his letter. The Gestapo tactics of the godless Inquisitors, making it illegal to be a believer basically in the US.
Perhaps you can cite some evidence of this?
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Originally Posted by Loudmouth View Post
Perhaps you can cite some evidence of this?
Can a teacher refuse to teach lies and ungodly things? Can a child bring a bible to school? Can parents not allow their brainwashed daughter to not kill her child? Can one preach what the bible says on marriage publicly, and take measure to keep the gleefully perverted from their ranks?

The believers are forced more and more into hiding and secrecy like the catacombs of Rome. I would be surprised if the next several years were not marked by growing real persecution, evil oppressive laws, open blasphemy, and such inevitable results of advanced decay. Good news for believers!!! Very good news. People get ready, there's a train a comin.....and to hell with the US and it's leadership.
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Originally Posted by dad View Post
Can a teacher refuse to teach lies and ungodly things? Can a child bring a bible to school? Can parents not allow their brainwashed daughter to not kill her child? Can one preach what the bible says on marriage publicly, and take measure to keep the gleefully perverted from their ranks?

The believers are forced more and more into hiding and secrecy like the catacombs of Rome. I would be surprised if the next several years were not marked by growing real persecution, evil oppressive laws, open blasphemy, and such inevitable results of advanced decay. Good news for believers!!! Very good news. People get ready, there's a train a comin.....and to hell with the US and it's leadership.
He asks for evidence, you offer none.

Originally Posted by HitchSlap View Post
You haven't taken your meds yet today, have you?
Perhaps he had too much.
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Old 7th November 2012, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by dad View Post
Can a teacher refuse to teach lies and ungodly things?
Yes. If they refuse to teach the curriculum they may get fired, but then why would someone choose a profession where they are forced to go against their beliefs? What next? Jews are persecuted because they can't be taste testers at ham factories?

Can a child bring a bible to school?
Yes, absolutely. You can even read your bible during your free time at school. What is not allowed is teachers evangelizing during school hours, or the use of public dollars in evangelizing. I don't see why this is a problem.

Can parents not allow their brainwashed daughter to not kill her child?
Yes. Parents can even have their daughter committed to a mental institution (a 72 hour hold) if they feel that their daughter is a threat to other people, including her child.

Can one preach what the bible says on marriage publicly, and take measure to keep the gleefully perverted from their ranks?
Yes.

The believers are forced more and more into hiding and secrecy like the catacombs of Rome.
What? Everywhere I go I see churches where people proudly and publicly attend services thorughout the week. No one is stopping them. In fact, I am pretty sure that the majority of people in the US are believers of one faith or another. I have never, ever seen a law that states that christians can not hold public office. However, states did pass laws that prevented atheists from holding public office. History and facts are just the opposite of what you claim

I would be surprised if the next several years were not marked by growing real persecution, evil oppressive laws, open blasphemy, and such inevitable results of advanced decay. Good news for believers!!! Very good news. People get ready, there's a train a comin.....and to hell with the US and it's leadership.
And now you have to invent persecution in order to feel better about yourself.
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Hopefully, now that they voted there for an ungodly leader, (openly anti bible policies) and blaspemy, no one in their right mind expects anything but oppression and darkness anymore there. The US is the enemy of God now.
What a load of crappola. President Obama is a practising Christian. There is nothing "ungodly" about the man. You can always leave the country and go somewhere more appealing to you... like maybe Iran.
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Perhaps he had too much.
This actually makes the most sense.
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The believers are forced more and more into hiding and secrecy like the catacombs of Rome. I would be surprised if the next several years were not marked by growing real persecution, evil oppressive laws, open blasphemy, and such inevitable results of advanced decay. Good news for believers!!! Very good news. People get ready, there's a train a comin.....and to hell with the US and it's leadership.
Its a comin!

Any day now..

Real soon!.....

Any moment!!.......

Not long to wait!....

....snore........
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Originally Posted by Loudmouth View Post
Perhaps you can cite some evidence of this?
dad and evidence don't mix.
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