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The White Horse Prophecy

Revelation 6


[1] And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.
[2] And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.




... Former Mormons Dennis and Rauni Higley of H.I.S. Ministries International in Salt Lake City, Utah concur that these indeed are the beliefs of the LDS establishment. They provided Christian News Network with written outlines of their concerns surrounding what is called the “White Horse Prophesy.”


“From its very beginning, the Mormon plan for America has been to have a Mormon president lead this nation and ultimately the world,” they stated. “The so-called ‘White Horse Prophecy’ of Joseph Smith has been referred to often as a destiny of the Mormon priesthood in saving the United States. This ‘prophecy’ predicts that U.S. government will one day hang as if by a single thread and Mormon elders will step in and save it.”


Daughter of LDS Bishop Warns Against Mormonism and Romney Presidency




The White Horse Prophecy is a statement purported to have been made in 1843 by Joseph Smith, Jr., founder of the Latter Day Saint movement, regarding the future of the Latter Day Saints (Mormons) and the United States of America. The Latter Day Saints, according to the prophecy, would "go to the Rocky Mountains and ... be a great and mighty people", identified figuratively with the White Horse described in the Revelation of John. The prophecy further predicts that the United States Constitution will one day "hang like a thread" and will be saved "by the efforts of the White Horse".[1]


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Revelation 6






[1] And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.
[2] And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.



... Former Mormons Dennis and Rauni Higley of H.I.S. Ministries International in Salt Lake City, Utah concur that these indeed are the beliefs of the LDS establishment. They provided Christian News Network with written outlines of their concerns surrounding what is called the “White Horse Prophesy.”


“From its very beginning, the Mormon plan for America has been to have a Mormon president lead this nation and ultimately the world,” they stated. “The so-called ‘White Horse Prophecy’ of Joseph Smith has been referred to often as a destiny of the Mormon priesthood in saving the United States. This ‘prophecy’ predicts that U.S. government will one day hang as if by a single thread and Mormon elders will step in and save it.”


Daughter of LDS Bishop Warns Against Mormonism and Romney Presidency




The White Horse Prophecy is a statement purported to have been made in 1843 by Joseph Smith, Jr., founder of the Latter Day Saint movement, regarding the future of the Latter Day Saints (Mormons) and the United States of America. The Latter Day Saints, according to the prophecy, would "go to the Rocky Mountains and ... be a great and mighty people", identified figuratively with the White Horse described in the Revelation of John. The prophecy further predicts that the United States Constitution will one day "hang like a thread" and will be saved "by the efforts of the White Horse".[1]


White Horse Prophecy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Each human being rides a "white horse" as he enters and begins his life. He is born to "conquer" the world and attaine eternal life through Jesus Christ.

After living human life some will ride the "white horse" again if they are born again and follow Jesus. Some will just die and go back to the cycles of nature. This is a realistic meaning of these seals and horses. It follows and comforms with the rest of the Bible's cosmology.


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The Revelation began unfolding on Oct. 28th, 312 AD when the sign of the Son of Man appeared in the clouds, and Jesus came into power through St. Constantine who rode a white horse and conquered with a bow.
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The Revelation began unfolding on Oct. 28th, 312 AD when the sign of the Son of Man appeared in the clouds, and Jesus came into power through St. Constantine who rode a white horse and conquered with a bow.

Yes, that was the beginning of the formation of Christian "nations."


In Rev.21;24 it says "And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it." All of Revelation chapter 21 is describing the Christian Millennium of Matt.19;28 Acts 1;6 and Rev.20;4,6
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Yes, that was the beginning of the formation of Christian "nations."
Yes indeed. It is known as the turning point of history because since that day, Christian nations have been the dominant force on earth.


In Rev.21;24 it says "And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it." All of Revelation chapter 21 is describing the Christian Millennium of Matt.19;28 Acts 1;6 and Rev.20;4,6
Actually chapter 21 is mostly about the New Jerusalem which comes to pass on a new planet after the glorious 1000 year reign of the Church ends and the earth is destroyed by fire. Still, the 24 fruits of the 2 trees of life represent the 24 Christian nations that ruled with Jesus for a thousand years, and the leaves of the trees of life are for their healing.
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It is my understanding that the seal with the horses, the white horse depicts the antichrist. Anti in this manner means fake or faux, trying to pass himself as Christ in this case.
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Yes, that was the beginning of the formation of Christian "nations."


In Rev.21;24 it says "And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it." All of Revelation chapter 21 is describing the Christian Millennium of Matt.19;28 Acts 1;6 and Rev.20;4,6
No.

The Revelation began as stated in the book of Revelation. It starts with John prophesying to the 7 churches, just as stated by John. The tribulation is happening, as John bears witness to it in Rev 1:9-11:
9 I, John, your brother and fellow partaker in the tribulation and kingdom and perseverance which are in Jesus, was on the island called Patmos because of the word of God and the testimony of Jesus.
10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord’s day, and I heard behind me a loud voice like the sound of a trumpet,
11 saying, “Write in a book what you see, and send it to the seven churches: to Ephesus and to Smyrna and to Pergamum and to Thyatira and to Sardis and to Philadelphia and to Laodicea.”


That is the beginning of the apocalypse. Constantine is not the White Horse rider of Rev 6:1 at all in my view.

It's my belief the "White Horse" rider is Christ and the Church. The Church is conquering through the Lord Jesus Christ and the power of the gospel. As Paul says it in Romans 8:37-39
37 But in all these things we overwhelmingly conquer through Him who loved us.
38 For I am convinced that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers,
39 nor height, nor depth, nor any other created thing, will be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.


Constantine is simply a historical figure and his claim to be a Christian doesn't bear out in his actions. Have you really read about Constantine?

There no doubt that God has used people throughout history. Some Chrstian and some not. This I do know...the "White Horse" rider of Rev 6:1, is in no way Constantine!

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It is my understanding that the seal with the horses, the white horse depicts the antichrist. Anti in this manner means fake or faux, trying to pass himself as Christ in this case.
The 5 horsemen are the good guys (i.e., Christian nations), and the beast of the Revelation represents the bad guys.
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The Revelation 6 seals are parallel with Christ's Olivet prophecy
Christ tells his apostles first "take heed that no man deceive you"
the first seal represents false religion / deception
He then says "wars and rumors of wars"
the 2nd seal is the red horse symbolizing war

anyone can read the rest and see that the Olivet prophecy and the opening of the seals are parallel accounts

the white horse rider symbolizes deception and false religion which has been going on for centuries now

it does not symbolize a Romney presidency nor does it symbolize the Roman emperor Constantine
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The 5 horsemen are the good guys (i.e., Christian nations), and the beast of the Revelation represents the bad guys.

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